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<blockquote data-quote="Three_Haligonians" data-source="post: 1585000" data-attributes="member: 19546">Just to give you guys some more information on the situation: the efreet in question WAS summoned by way of ring, and thus, DID want to distort the wish.&nbsp; Whats more, we started off this game agreeing to the terms of the wish spell that the DM set...he's not pulling a fast one over on any of us.&nbsp; In fact, we enjoy playing the wish spell with the monkey's paw clause...since wish comes up so rarely in our game, so far, it adds a real element of danger to wishing, which we all (both players and dm's) enjoy.&nbsp; Our question doesn't have to do with if this is a fair varient rule or not.&nbsp; The problem is this: because spells/spell like ablilities/monster ablities and the like occasionally have the &quot;cannot be undone without the use of wish/miracle&quot; discriptor, do you think the monkey's paw clause upsets game balance IN THIS INSTANCE?&nbsp; By which, I mean, does it make those spells/ablities with the &quot;cannot be undone without the use of wish/miracle&quot; more powerful because it involves casting a spell that will likely come with a twist?Thanks for all the imput, please keep it coming!T from Three Haligonians</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Three_Haligonians, post: 1585000, member: 19546"] Just to give you guys some more information on the situation: the efreet in question WAS summoned by way of ring, and thus, DID want to distort the wish. Whats more, we started off this game agreeing to the terms of the wish spell that the DM set...he's not pulling a fast one over on any of us. In fact, we enjoy playing the wish spell with the monkey's paw clause...since wish comes up so rarely in our game, so far, it adds a real element of danger to wishing, which we all (both players and dm's) enjoy. Our question doesn't have to do with if this is a fair varient rule or not. The problem is this: because spells/spell like ablilities/monster ablities and the like occasionally have the "cannot be undone without the use of wish/miracle" discriptor, do you think the monkey's paw clause upsets game balance IN THIS INSTANCE? By which, I mean, does it make those spells/ablities with the "cannot be undone without the use of wish/miracle" more powerful because it involves casting a spell that will likely come with a twist? Thanks for all the imput, please keep it coming! T from Three Haligonians [/QUOTE]

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