Wish spell to learn a feat?

[Iron_Chef]

Can you wish to immediately learn a new feat in addition to those you would normally receive? Say the wish is being granted by a greater god if that matters.

 

[Lord Pendragon]

Granting a feat through use of a Wish falls under the last clause of the spell:

The character may wish for greater effects than these, but doing so is dangerous. Such a wish gives the opportunity to fulfill the character's request without fulfilling it completely. (The wish may pervert the character's intent into a literal but undesirable fulfillment or only a partial fulfillment.)

So really, this is entirely up to your DM.

If you are asking whether others, as DMs, would allow it, then I probably would. But I would require that the feat be one that the PC already has all the prerequisites for. So no Spring Attack unless you already have Dodge and Mobility.

 

[Kae'Yoss]

Hmm... I don't know. It means that the characters can ultimately buy feats. But if wishes are very hard to come by in your campaign, and they cannot buy as much wish scrolls (or pay as much spellcasters to cast wish) as they like, it may be OK. But as Pendragon said: It's one of those wishes you have to word carefully, or have another, unwanted, effect, and of course he would have to fulfull the prerequisites.

 

[FireLance]

Going by the pricing guides in Arms & Equipment Guide, a magic item that can grant a feat should cost 10,000 gp, plus 5,000 gp to 10,000 gp per prerequisite. If you double the cost for a magic item that takes up no item slots, you get about 20,000 gp for a basic feat, which is within the guidelines for a Wish. So, I would allow a Wish to grant a feat that the character already met the prerequisites for.

However, to avoid abuse, I would treat it like an inherent bonus to an ability score: your first Wish gets you one feat. If you want to wish for another, you need two Wishes, and so on up to your fifth bonus feat. You cannot get more than five feats from Wishes (and you would need to use up fifteen Wishes to do so).

 

[dcollins]

As DM, I would choose "no". Among other problems, it throws the character's accounting off so it doesn't match what you get from the PC or NPC creation rules in the book -- you could ask the same question about wishing for skill points, saves, BAB, additional spell slots, etc.

Most DMs who allow this apparently need to generate some limitations to keep things balanced (such as FireLance above), and those are obviously all house rules.

 

[hong]

I'd say it's okay, providing you already met the prereqs, and you hadn't already used a wish for this purpose. Ie, you can only get one extra feat this way.

 

[Kae'Yoss]

you get about 20,000 gp for a basic feat, which is within the guidelines for a Wish. So, I would allow a Wish to grant a feat that the character already met the prerequisites for.

The guidelines state magic items worth 15.000 gp or less, so it will be one of those troublesome wishes.

 

[Grazzt]

I'd say it's okay, providing you already met the prereqs, and you hadn't already used a wish for this purpose. Ie, you can only get one extra feat this way.

That sounds pretty good and is probably how I would handle it should the situation ever arise IMC.

My players however are wary of wish spells (all the way back to 1e) since I will distort and pervert the wish if they are not extremely careful with the wording (and they know this).

 

[drnuncheon]

Hmm. You can't get a level with a wish...and feats are even more precious than levels. SO my first instinct is 'no'.

I would definitely allow someone to change their feats around with a wish.

I would probably use my power as DM & wishgranter to give the person an item that granted them the feat. That makes it easiest to adjudicate in termsof balance (and to fix, for that matter, should it become a problem.)

J

 

[the Jester]

Well, I would allow a feat to be gained via a wish- but probably at the cost of another one going away.

I do have 'feat tomes' imc that grant a (specific) bonus feat to the reader, which seems more elegant to me.