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Wish via a Spell-like ability, any limit on XP spent?
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<blockquote data-quote="Jack Simth" data-source="post: 2606868" data-attributes="member: 29252"><p>It might not be RAW, but it was fun; I once dropped a wish in my player's laps; a defeated Glabrezu bargained for it's life (it was down to 5 hp on it's turn... with a paladin and a rogue flanking... granted, it could have passed the concentration check to activate a spell like Greater Teleport without blinking... but it was much more fun to watch the party rogue squirm over what to Wish for).</p><p></p><p>Anyway, the Rogue managed to Intimidate the thing after combat (a few negative levels due to Enervation from the party Sorceror made it through, so it's saves were down a fair amount), so it acted as "Friendly" for the post-combat wish explanations, and explained the mechanics of the wish.</p><p></p><p>He could indeed grant a magic item .... but the extra XP cost would end up being drained from the wisher, not the demon; while normally a character couldn't cast Wish enough to drop a level from the XP cost, well, it wouldn't be the DEMON dropping a level from a loss of vital essence, now would it? So he could have wished for a Cloak of Resistance +6; but at 36,000 gp, that translated to 2880 .... which at the time, would have dropped him a level ... which he wasn't willing to go for. </p><p></p><p>He instead opted for a Permanent Resistance - why, I have no idea - but I granted it ... and a while later, he found out when the party Paladin was checking for evil (at an awkward moment, after having just picked up a cloak of resitance +4 from a chest left behind when the Evil Sorceror fled) that the spell left him with a Strong aura of evil.... as it was duration<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":P" title="Stick out tongue :P" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":P" />ermanent, and still a 9th level spell.... or technically 6th.... but hey....</p><p></p><p>I grabbed the mechanism slightly ad-hock off a note in the scrolls section for a scroll of Wish; there's a tag on the cost that says it assumes no XP price in excess of the 5,000 standard for Wish ... which means a scroll wish (and possibly, by extension, those wishes from a Ring of Wishing, a Luckblade, or a spell-like ability) can't exceed it under their own power alone.</p><p></p><p>As I said - possibly not RAW, but fun. Permits the players to Wish up something big, but adds a price tag they tend to be unwilling to pay fully.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jack Simth, post: 2606868, member: 29252"] It might not be RAW, but it was fun; I once dropped a wish in my player's laps; a defeated Glabrezu bargained for it's life (it was down to 5 hp on it's turn... with a paladin and a rogue flanking... granted, it could have passed the concentration check to activate a spell like Greater Teleport without blinking... but it was much more fun to watch the party rogue squirm over what to Wish for). Anyway, the Rogue managed to Intimidate the thing after combat (a few negative levels due to Enervation from the party Sorceror made it through, so it's saves were down a fair amount), so it acted as "Friendly" for the post-combat wish explanations, and explained the mechanics of the wish. He could indeed grant a magic item .... but the extra XP cost would end up being drained from the wisher, not the demon; while normally a character couldn't cast Wish enough to drop a level from the XP cost, well, it wouldn't be the DEMON dropping a level from a loss of vital essence, now would it? So he could have wished for a Cloak of Resistance +6; but at 36,000 gp, that translated to 2880 .... which at the time, would have dropped him a level ... which he wasn't willing to go for. He instead opted for a Permanent Resistance - why, I have no idea - but I granted it ... and a while later, he found out when the party Paladin was checking for evil (at an awkward moment, after having just picked up a cloak of resitance +4 from a chest left behind when the Evil Sorceror fled) that the spell left him with a Strong aura of evil.... as it was duration:Permanent, and still a 9th level spell.... or technically 6th.... but hey.... I grabbed the mechanism slightly ad-hock off a note in the scrolls section for a scroll of Wish; there's a tag on the cost that says it assumes no XP price in excess of the 5,000 standard for Wish ... which means a scroll wish (and possibly, by extension, those wishes from a Ring of Wishing, a Luckblade, or a spell-like ability) can't exceed it under their own power alone. As I said - possibly not RAW, but fun. Permits the players to Wish up something big, but adds a price tag they tend to be unwilling to pay fully. [/QUOTE]
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