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Wish via a Spell-like ability, any limit on XP spent?
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<blockquote data-quote="Artoomis" data-source="post: 2607444" data-attributes="member: 111"><p>Well, technically you are correct, it seems. DM intervention is required.</p><p></p><p>P.S.: I did not state "may not create an item such that the XP cost doubled plus 5000 exceeds the amount by which your current XP total exceeds that required to reach your current level.," did I? The limit is clearly that you cannot lose a level, and, further that the XP cost for an item is doubles and it also requires 5,000 XP.</p><p></p><p>Thus the market price limit is normally, when XP is required, ((current XP - XP required to gain your current level)-5,000)/2)+25. This is not allowed to be a negative number, but, as you correctly point out, does not apply to using a Wish as a Spell-Like Ability.</p><p></p><p>Finally, note that "A noble djinni can grant three wishes to any being ..." but in no place is this defined as a spell-like ability. It's undefined. I would presume it's spell-like, and it's getting really, really nit-picky, but I suppose you could view this as:</p><p></p><p>1. Granting the ability for the PC cast a wish, in which case all limitations apply (that's a real stretch but works very well).</p><p>2. Casting a wish like a sorceror would (no spell preparation), and all limits apply (this works, but's using XP limits with monsters doesn't work well at all) .</p><p>3. Using a spell-like ability (c'mon, now, this really HAS to be it, right?), in which case XP limits do not apply.</p><p></p><p>I like number 1. Plausible, if barely, by the RAW. It's makes the wish be NOT free which is contrary to the clear intention here, I think.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Artoomis, post: 2607444, member: 111"] Well, technically you are correct, it seems. DM intervention is required. P.S.: I did not state "may not create an item such that the XP cost doubled plus 5000 exceeds the amount by which your current XP total exceeds that required to reach your current level.," did I? The limit is clearly that you cannot lose a level, and, further that the XP cost for an item is doubles and it also requires 5,000 XP. Thus the market price limit is normally, when XP is required, ((current XP - XP required to gain your current level)-5,000)/2)+25. This is not allowed to be a negative number, but, as you correctly point out, does not apply to using a Wish as a Spell-Like Ability. Finally, note that "A noble djinni can grant three wishes to any being ..." but in no place is this defined as a spell-like ability. It's undefined. I would presume it's spell-like, and it's getting really, really nit-picky, but I suppose you could view this as: 1. Granting the ability for the PC cast a wish, in which case all limitations apply (that's a real stretch but works very well). 2. Casting a wish like a sorceror would (no spell preparation), and all limits apply (this works, but's using XP limits with monsters doesn't work well at all) . 3. Using a spell-like ability (c'mon, now, this really HAS to be it, right?), in which case XP limits do not apply. I like number 1. Plausible, if barely, by the RAW. It's makes the wish be NOT free which is contrary to the clear intention here, I think. [/QUOTE]
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