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<blockquote data-quote="Greenfield" data-source="post: 6042753" data-attributes="member: 6669384"><p>As a general rule, <em>Wishing</em> for more <em>Wishes</em> is a no-no, so that's shot down from the word go. This guy is trying to take advantage of your inexperience. Don't let him.</p><p></p><p>He wants all the powers of a Nymph, but without being one? Okay, turn him into a statue of a Nymph, enchanted with all of her abilities. Or turn him into something else completely unplayable. The only form he forbade was Nymph, after all. And while a Nymph gets Druidic spells, she doesn't get Druidic class features like Wild Shape that would let him shape change back to himself. </p><p></p><p>Ooooh! I have it! Turn him into the tree that a Nymph will attach herself to!</p><p></p><p>In any case, use that to end his career. I'm serious. A classic slap down is called for when somebody tries to pull this kind of stuff on an inexperienced DM. Lay down the law now and you'll save yourself a mountain of grief later.</p><p></p><p>Also remember that Scrolls aren't useable by just anyone. The spell needs to be on the spell list for that character's class, and they need to be high enough level to cast the spell. He's a Level 4 Scout. As far as I know, <em>Wish</em> isn't on the Scout's spell list. (Neither is anything else, for that matter, as Scouts aren't spell casters.) That means that he'll need to make a Use Magic Device roll, first to emulate a Wizard class feature, then to emulate 17 levels of Wizard. That's two rolls if I recall the rules correctly, and he needs to roll a total of 37 for that last part. (Roll - 20 to get class level.)</p><p></p><p>So presume he has UMD maxed, and has an 18 Charisma. Add in a Headband of Persuasion (+3 on Charisma checks) and gets an <em>Eagle's Splendor</em> cast on him for another +2. That's 7 Skill points, 6 Ability points, plus 3 for the Headband. +16 total. He needs to roll a natural 21 on a D20.</p><p></p><p>Don't let him know that you've done the math, and make him roll the dice in front of you. If/when he fails (he will because this is a Skill check, and even a Natural 20 won't get him a 37), you can decide what happens when the ultimate spell power in the game misfires.</p><p></p><p>Again, end the PC's career with this. </p><p></p><p>As a general rule, you probably shouldn't be handing out <em>Wish</em> scrolls to level 4 party members. Way, way over the top.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Greenfield, post: 6042753, member: 6669384"] As a general rule, [I]Wishing[/I] for more [I]Wishes[/I] is a no-no, so that's shot down from the word go. This guy is trying to take advantage of your inexperience. Don't let him. He wants all the powers of a Nymph, but without being one? Okay, turn him into a statue of a Nymph, enchanted with all of her abilities. Or turn him into something else completely unplayable. The only form he forbade was Nymph, after all. And while a Nymph gets Druidic spells, she doesn't get Druidic class features like Wild Shape that would let him shape change back to himself. Ooooh! I have it! Turn him into the tree that a Nymph will attach herself to! In any case, use that to end his career. I'm serious. A classic slap down is called for when somebody tries to pull this kind of stuff on an inexperienced DM. Lay down the law now and you'll save yourself a mountain of grief later. Also remember that Scrolls aren't useable by just anyone. The spell needs to be on the spell list for that character's class, and they need to be high enough level to cast the spell. He's a Level 4 Scout. As far as I know, [I]Wish[/I] isn't on the Scout's spell list. (Neither is anything else, for that matter, as Scouts aren't spell casters.) That means that he'll need to make a Use Magic Device roll, first to emulate a Wizard class feature, then to emulate 17 levels of Wizard. That's two rolls if I recall the rules correctly, and he needs to roll a total of 37 for that last part. (Roll - 20 to get class level.) So presume he has UMD maxed, and has an 18 Charisma. Add in a Headband of Persuasion (+3 on Charisma checks) and gets an [I]Eagle's Splendor[/I] cast on him for another +2. That's 7 Skill points, 6 Ability points, plus 3 for the Headband. +16 total. He needs to roll a natural 21 on a D20. Don't let him know that you've done the math, and make him roll the dice in front of you. If/when he fails (he will because this is a Skill check, and even a Natural 20 won't get him a 37), you can decide what happens when the ultimate spell power in the game misfires. Again, end the PC's career with this. As a general rule, you probably shouldn't be handing out [I]Wish[/I] scrolls to level 4 party members. Way, way over the top. [/QUOTE]
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