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<blockquote data-quote="TKDB" data-source="post: 6043239" data-attributes="member: 6690697"><p>Actually, that's the limit for nonmagical item creation. Magic items have no stated cap, but instead eat an amount of XP equal to 5000 + 2x the normal XP cost to craft the item.</p><p></p><p>So if you're casting the spell you *could* wish for a Ring of Three Wishes...if you feel like burning 36836 XP. Of course, if you have this option this means you could probably just cast Wish yourself three times, which would most likely be the more economical option. Unless your DM is extremely generous and lets the Wishes from the ring have an unlimited XP budget and you want some REALLY XP-heavy wishes...</p><p></p><p>You could hypothetically use a scroll of Wish to wish for a wish-granting item if the scroll's created invested enough XP into it, but a standard scroll of Wish has only 5000 XP, which isn't sufficient to wish for <em>any</em> magic item (since the minimum XP cost to wish for a magic item is 5002 XP). So in this scenario, assuming the PC is able to make the multiple high-DC UMD checks necessary to use the scroll in the first place (or can rely on a friendly wizard to do it for him and make the requisite CL check), the DM could simply veto the wish outright or subject it to the "perverted intent" clause for exceeding the limits of the Wish.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TKDB, post: 6043239, member: 6690697"] Actually, that's the limit for nonmagical item creation. Magic items have no stated cap, but instead eat an amount of XP equal to 5000 + 2x the normal XP cost to craft the item. So if you're casting the spell you *could* wish for a Ring of Three Wishes...if you feel like burning 36836 XP. Of course, if you have this option this means you could probably just cast Wish yourself three times, which would most likely be the more economical option. Unless your DM is extremely generous and lets the Wishes from the ring have an unlimited XP budget and you want some REALLY XP-heavy wishes... You could hypothetically use a scroll of Wish to wish for a wish-granting item if the scroll's created invested enough XP into it, but a standard scroll of Wish has only 5000 XP, which isn't sufficient to wish for [I]any[/I] magic item (since the minimum XP cost to wish for a magic item is 5002 XP). So in this scenario, assuming the PC is able to make the multiple high-DC UMD checks necessary to use the scroll in the first place (or can rely on a friendly wizard to do it for him and make the requisite CL check), the DM could simply veto the wish outright or subject it to the "perverted intent" clause for exceeding the limits of the Wish. [/QUOTE]
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