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<blockquote data-quote="Greenfield" data-source="post: 5856866" data-attributes="member: 6669384"><p>I used to see wishes written out like a multi-page contract.</p><p></p><p>One clause I had to void was when a player would add, "... with no negative effects of any kind". </p><p></p><p>While such a precaution is understandable, considering the obscene lengths DMs used to go to when perverting <em>Wishes</em>, the fact remains that "negative" is a matter of opinion, and the time frame is open ended. You <em>Wish</em> for a magic item and years from now someone tries to kill you for it: Is that a "negative effect"? The <em>Wish</em> resulting in character death sure sounds negative to me.</p><p></p><p>In 1st Ed, with the groups I played with, a <em>Wish</em> wasn't the ultimate reward, it was the ultimate punishment. Some DMs just added bad effects because they could. Others listened to what you said, then paraphrased it to themselves and worked from there. That way, no matter how careful or precise you were, they were free to abuse your character as they saw fit.</p><p></p><p>Example, one PC cast <em>Fly</em>, then <em>Wished</em> that the spell be "indispellably permanent." The DM turned him into a bird. When challenged, he said, "Well he <em>Wished</em> he could fly, so...". And no matter how we pointed out that the <em>Wish</em> had never even mentioned the word "fly", the DM concluded that that was what he was <em>Wishing</em> for, so tweet-tweet.</p><p></p><p>My general rule is that "Hogs get slaughtered". You get too greedy, you're taking a risk.</p><p></p><p>The thing was that in earlier editions there really weren't any guidelines for what a <em>Wish</em> could or couldn't do. They introduced the guidelines in 3.0, and when they did a lot of the abuse went away.</p><p></p><p>And you know what? I'm just as happy with <em>Wish</em> as a license to abuse being gone.</p><p></p><p>Now, back to the original topic: By the book, you can <em>Wish</em> for absolutely anything. No real limits. So yes, in theory a <em>Wish</em> could get a character Fast Heal or Regeneration. </p><p></p><p>In practice, you'd better be really careful about how you word it, lest you run into an old school DM like myself who remembers how to really twist and pervert <em>Wishes.</em></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Greenfield, post: 5856866, member: 6669384"] I used to see wishes written out like a multi-page contract. One clause I had to void was when a player would add, "... with no negative effects of any kind". While such a precaution is understandable, considering the obscene lengths DMs used to go to when perverting [I]Wishes[/I], the fact remains that "negative" is a matter of opinion, and the time frame is open ended. You [I]Wish[/I] for a magic item and years from now someone tries to kill you for it: Is that a "negative effect"? The [I]Wish[/I] resulting in character death sure sounds negative to me. In 1st Ed, with the groups I played with, a [I]Wish[/I] wasn't the ultimate reward, it was the ultimate punishment. Some DMs just added bad effects because they could. Others listened to what you said, then paraphrased it to themselves and worked from there. That way, no matter how careful or precise you were, they were free to abuse your character as they saw fit. Example, one PC cast [I]Fly[/I], then [I]Wished[/I] that the spell be "indispellably permanent." The DM turned him into a bird. When challenged, he said, "Well he [I]Wished[/I] he could fly, so...". And no matter how we pointed out that the [I]Wish[/I] had never even mentioned the word "fly", the DM concluded that that was what he was [I]Wishing[/I] for, so tweet-tweet. My general rule is that "Hogs get slaughtered". You get too greedy, you're taking a risk. The thing was that in earlier editions there really weren't any guidelines for what a [I]Wish[/I] could or couldn't do. They introduced the guidelines in 3.0, and when they did a lot of the abuse went away. And you know what? I'm just as happy with [I]Wish[/I] as a license to abuse being gone. Now, back to the original topic: By the book, you can [I]Wish[/I] for absolutely anything. No real limits. So yes, in theory a [I]Wish[/I] could get a character Fast Heal or Regeneration. In practice, you'd better be really careful about how you word it, lest you run into an old school DM like myself who remembers how to really twist and pervert [I]Wishes.[/I] [/QUOTE]
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