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<blockquote data-quote="MNblockhead" data-source="post: 9194662" data-attributes="member: 6796661"><p>I was bothered by it at first, but it hasn't ruined my current campaign. But at high level D&D, things are just gonzo. If the enemy has powerful, intelligent spell casters, none of this stuff is game breaking, but high level D&D is a different game than low level D&D. And that's okay, both can be fun. I would like to see the DMG have a section that goes into detail on different play styles and themes with more concrete examples and recommendations, including which spells to you may want to remove. </p><p></p><p>Actually, what has been more of culture shock for me DMing 5e is several of my players complain about how much 5e has nerfed magic. They are long-time gamers. I have a gaming gap of over two decades. Before 5e, the last fantasy TTRPGs I played were 1e and Warhammer. If they think 5e magic is gimped, I can't image what 3e and PF1 are like (which they played a lot of). </p><p></p><p>I listened to the entire first adventure path of the Glass Cannon Podcast, a live play of Paizo's Giantslayer <em>adventure</em> path. I enjoyed it, because the DM and players are all great improvisers and some are professional comedians and actors. But, man, I would be exhausted having DM high-level Pathfinder. Even combat at the lower levels seemed very complicated to run.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MNblockhead, post: 9194662, member: 6796661"] I was bothered by it at first, but it hasn't ruined my current campaign. But at high level D&D, things are just gonzo. If the enemy has powerful, intelligent spell casters, none of this stuff is game breaking, but high level D&D is a different game than low level D&D. And that's okay, both can be fun. I would like to see the DMG have a section that goes into detail on different play styles and themes with more concrete examples and recommendations, including which spells to you may want to remove. Actually, what has been more of culture shock for me DMing 5e is several of my players complain about how much 5e has nerfed magic. They are long-time gamers. I have a gaming gap of over two decades. Before 5e, the last fantasy TTRPGs I played were 1e and Warhammer. If they think 5e magic is gimped, I can't image what 3e and PF1 are like (which they played a lot of). I listened to the entire first adventure path of the Glass Cannon Podcast, a live play of Paizo's Giantslayer [I]adventure[/I] path. I enjoyed it, because the DM and players are all great improvisers and some are professional comedians and actors. But, man, I would be exhausted having DM high-level Pathfinder. Even combat at the lower levels seemed very complicated to run. [/QUOTE]
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