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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Rakusia" data-source="post: 6153089" data-attributes="member: 87170">okay was running a game and decided to introduce a cape of lesser wish. once per day when magic word is said the cape will potentially grant a wish. this is a lvl 10+ campaign with a single class wizard single class ranger. so not super powered item by any means. the problem comes from the magic word that has to be spoken to activate the cape.the scenario was two ogres fighting over cloak. if approached and talked to they would have stated that it was an inheritance from their father and they were fighting over who got to keep it. trying to get combat down a bit solution was to offer to test it out and decide which one would get it. thereby getting the cape and magic word. players however killed the ogres and took the cape. now wizard has it but cant use it. players are arguing there would be some way for him to find the magic word. it is a specific word attached to the enchantment when the cape was made. only thing i can think of is to have him say it and something pop up from cape accidentally being activated. my question outside of some clever dming is there any spells or something like that that would let him discover it? i know identify allows him to know how to activate it, but doesnt specify if he would know the exact word or just that it is in fact keyword activated. as this happened i went with he only knows he needs a certain word.</blockquote>