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<blockquote data-quote="Infiniti2000" data-source="post: 3046320" data-attributes="member: 31734">They are no more powerful than meteor swarm.&nbsp; Do you attempt to screw your players over when they cast that, or similar-strength, spells?&nbsp;I agree, it doesn't matter.&nbsp; If you want to create magic items that are &quot;wish-like&quot; that screw over the user, that's fine.&nbsp; Some items are cursed after all.&nbsp; But, that's decidedly different than a wish cast by a wizard PC.&nbsp;Because DM's like you say things like &quot;'Poof, you have the abliity to swim...{check character sheet....} Yup, right there, you have ranks in the Swim skill....' Of course, I am a First Class RBDM when it comes to wishes.&quot; You think you're being a RBDM, but you're not.&nbsp; You're just screwing over the player.&nbsp;The fact that they have to do all that extra crap sucks.&nbsp; Just ban wishes if you plan to screw over the player for casting his spells.&nbsp;I wholly disagree with you, based on what you've written here.&nbsp; You may in fact not be purposefully screwing the players, but my impression from this thread is different.&nbsp; Why do you requires players to be lawyers and not players?&nbsp; Why not just assume that all that excess lawyer-crap is appended to any wish so that the player does not get screwed?&nbsp; I don't see how you're increasing or even maintaining any fun level with your interpretation of the wish spell (based on this thread).&nbsp;What rule are you enforcing if the limits of the spell have not been violated?&nbsp; You have no rule support for your plan to screw players over unless they wish &quot;to produce greater effects than these.&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Infiniti2000, post: 3046320, member: 31734"] They are no more powerful than meteor swarm. Do you attempt to screw your players over when they cast that, or similar-strength, spells? I agree, it doesn't matter. If you want to create magic items that are "wish-like" that screw over the user, that's fine. Some items are cursed after all. But, that's decidedly different than a wish cast by a wizard PC. Because DM's like you say things like "'Poof, you have the abliity to swim...{check character sheet....} Yup, right there, you have ranks in the Swim skill....' Of course, I am a First Class RBDM when it comes to wishes." You think you're being a RBDM, but you're not. You're just screwing over the player. The fact that they have to do all that extra crap sucks. Just ban wishes if you plan to screw over the player for casting his spells. I wholly disagree with you, based on what you've written here. You may in fact not be purposefully screwing the players, but my impression from this thread is different. Why do you requires players to be lawyers and not players? Why not just assume that all that excess lawyer-crap is appended to any wish so that the player does not get screwed? I don't see how you're increasing or even maintaining any fun level with your interpretation of the wish spell (based on this thread). What rule are you enforcing if the limits of the spell have not been violated? You have no rule support for your plan to screw players over [I]unless they wish "to produce greater effects than these."[/I] [/QUOTE]

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