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<blockquote data-quote="Roland Delacroix" data-source="post: 88442" data-attributes="member: 1753">Actually those rules were common everywhere right before news of the Epic level book was making the rounds.&nbsp; WotC threw out those rules as a hold over for people who were going to hit 20th level before the Epic book came out.&nbsp; Sounds like you havent been hip with the d20 news very long.Unless you are giving your players Wishes at 5th level this is irrelevent.&nbsp; By the time a group gets wishes they will be high enough level that they probabaly couldnt complete a new PrC, and the best abilities are at PrC level 9-10 anyway.&nbsp; In most cases the tradeoff isn't worth it.&nbsp; I'm sure you could come up with some extreme case, but a naked character shouldn't even find a Ring of Three Wishes untill 13th level and certainly not cast Wish until 17th.&nbsp; High level characters should have high level powers not be glorified lamers just because the DM can't handle a high level group.I can understand not wanting players to get too many feat chains, in the right game.&nbsp; I'm of the opinion that there are way to many cool feats out there to play anything but a Psi Warrior or Fighter (or Monk with the OA rules, or Psion with Resculpt Mind).&nbsp; Allowing to Wish for feats means even Bards can get cool feat chains, at a cost.&nbsp; Hell, Sorcerers almost need to be able to Wish feats they get so few.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Roland Delacroix, post: 88442, member: 1753"] Actually those rules were common everywhere right before news of the Epic level book was making the rounds. WotC threw out those rules as a hold over for people who were going to hit 20th level before the Epic book came out. Sounds like you havent been hip with the d20 news very long. Unless you are giving your players Wishes at 5th level this is irrelevent. By the time a group gets wishes they will be high enough level that they probabaly couldnt complete a new PrC, and the best abilities are at PrC level 9-10 anyway. In most cases the tradeoff isn't worth it. I'm sure you could come up with some extreme case, but a naked character shouldn't even find a Ring of Three Wishes untill 13th level and certainly not cast Wish until 17th. High level characters should have high level powers not be glorified lamers just because the DM can't handle a high level group. I can understand not wanting players to get too many feat chains, in the right game. I'm of the opinion that there are way to many cool feats out there to play anything but a Psi Warrior or Fighter (or Monk with the OA rules, or Psion with Resculpt Mind). Allowing to Wish for feats means even Bards can get cool feat chains, at a cost. Hell, Sorcerers almost need to be able to Wish feats they get so few. [/QUOTE]

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