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<blockquote data-quote="pming" data-source="post: 7380138" data-attributes="member: 45197"><p>Hiya!</p><p></p><p>I'm going to go with...: Ask your DM.</p><p></p><p>Seriously. Just for opinion? Ok...in my game I'd say "No" because Invisibility isn't easy to get in my game (potion, ring, even spell), so being "Invisible" is kind of a rare thing. In my game, 1st level spells are "Impressive" and most folk will be, well, impressed. If someone's casting 2nd level spells, that's even more impressive. Level 3 spells? Folks will be in awe and both fascinated and terrified of the power. Level 4 spells...well, nobody has ever gotten high enough level to cast 4th or 5th level spells in any of our 5e games, so...yeah. I guess those would fall into the realm of "unbelievable". As in "He cast a mighty spell! An invulnerable wall of shimmering, solid <em>MAGIC </em>stopped the hoard of goblins in their tracks! In that escape tunnel, we were doomed...until that. The goblins hacked and chopped and threw themselves at the magic wall, and it didn't even leave a scratch!"...to which one would reply "heheh...go on then. Pull the other one! A shimmering wall of magical force? Enough to cover the width of a passage where two men in armor could ride side by side? ...Oi! Barkeep! I'll 'ave what this one 'ere is havin'!" ... ... ... don't even ask about 6th to 9th level spells. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>I also rule that EVERY spell has to have a "Target". That target can't be "nebulous" (as in "I target anything invisible in that corner over there"...even if they knew there was an invisible guy hiding somewhere in that 100 square feet of space). The "target" has to be specific enough that the caster could "pick it out of a line up". E.g., someone dressed as a clown in a vast sea of clowns isn't going to work...but picking a clown out of a sea of unwashed street sweepers would be no contest.</p><p></p><p>YMMV.</p><p></p><p>^_^</p><p></p><p>Paul L. Ming</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pming, post: 7380138, member: 45197"] Hiya! I'm going to go with...: Ask your DM. Seriously. Just for opinion? Ok...in my game I'd say "No" because Invisibility isn't easy to get in my game (potion, ring, even spell), so being "Invisible" is kind of a rare thing. In my game, 1st level spells are "Impressive" and most folk will be, well, impressed. If someone's casting 2nd level spells, that's even more impressive. Level 3 spells? Folks will be in awe and both fascinated and terrified of the power. Level 4 spells...well, nobody has ever gotten high enough level to cast 4th or 5th level spells in any of our 5e games, so...yeah. I guess those would fall into the realm of "unbelievable". As in "He cast a mighty spell! An invulnerable wall of shimmering, solid [I]MAGIC [/I]stopped the hoard of goblins in their tracks! In that escape tunnel, we were doomed...until that. The goblins hacked and chopped and threw themselves at the magic wall, and it didn't even leave a scratch!"...to which one would reply "heheh...go on then. Pull the other one! A shimmering wall of magical force? Enough to cover the width of a passage where two men in armor could ride side by side? ...Oi! Barkeep! I'll 'ave what this one 'ere is havin'!" ... ... ... don't even ask about 6th to 9th level spells. ;) I also rule that EVERY spell has to have a "Target". That target can't be "nebulous" (as in "I target anything invisible in that corner over there"...even if they knew there was an invisible guy hiding somewhere in that 100 square feet of space). The "target" has to be specific enough that the caster could "pick it out of a line up". E.g., someone dressed as a clown in a vast sea of clowns isn't going to work...but picking a clown out of a sea of unwashed street sweepers would be no contest. YMMV. ^_^ Paul L. Ming [/QUOTE]
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