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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9534621" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>It's not in-game nor using game assets so there's no requirement to use Unreal for the trailer. And Unreal has a sort of generic and slightly bland look unless used with great care.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Your objection makes no sense to me if you played TW3 and saw the ending I noted. Did you play TW3? I would assume a Witcher fan like yourself would have. TW3's ending establishes that Ciri does probably go on to be a witcher!</p><p></p><p>As for the "daddy Geralt", again, an objection which doesn't make sense given the story of the games/books - Geralt is completely unable to control Ciri, and doesn't even really want to! He is not "the boss of her"! He cares about her and is concerned for her, but their relationship has to come down to him allowing her to make her own decisions. So the say is ultimately hers - at worst he can choose to not <em>help</em> her become a witcher.</p><p></p><p>Further, we see pretty clear evidence that Geralt wasn't the one who trained her or who performed the Trial of Grasses, because she's wearing a Lynx medallion, not a Wolf one! Someone who wasn't Geralt did her proper training and administered the actual trial. Which might indicate that Geralt doesn't approve of the choice Ciri made, or might mean Geralt was out of the picture in some other way.</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]389338[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>See? Unquestionably Lynx, which is the revived Cat school combined with some Wolf ideas and some new stuff entirely.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Because it ignores the <em>actual story</em> shown in the trailer. Also, we don't know how experienced she is as a witcher, so assuming she's been hunting 24/7 since the end of the previous game is a little strange.</p><p></p><p>One theory I've seen is that she tried being a "witcher" (i.e. a monster-hunter) with her own nigh-demi-god-like powers for a while, that didn't work out (possibly lost her powers somehow, or nearly died in a situation where a witcher wouldn't), and she took the Trial of Grasses and became a "proper" witcher. So she might actually be extremely new to the "normal" witcher business in a lot of ways.</p><p></p><p>In fact, logically, that's highly likely - the game may well start with her pretty inexperienced. Note that this is the first game in a trilogy, too. This is the equivalent of Witcher 1, where Geralt is relatively green!</p><p></p><p></p><p>Presumably because Ciri doesn't know <em>exactly</em> what she's facing - it seems like she might have arrived pretty much that morning, from the intercutting between her preparing and the sacrificial victim being prepared. You know perfectly well that witchers often end up in situations where they essentially have to act <em>now</em> and not in eight hours, or a day or a week as they'd prefer. Where they don't get to do reconnaissance and research. Where they have to drink a potion on the spot and not beforehand. To pretend otherwise is absolute shenanigans, and refuted by all three Witcher games (and the books to some extent). So she prepares as best she can - she sharpens her weapons, she has her chain ready, and she presumably has a number of potions prepared based on what she anticipates facing. Then she uses the appropriate one.</p><p></p><p>(You bring up the Bloody Baron, but that's a counter-point to this - in the BB, Geralt has a ton of time to find out what's up, what's going on, and how to counteract it - and a good thing too, or everything would go much worse! It's not a strict "person already walking into forest" clock like this. When Geralt has to act relatively fast like this, things are often messier.)</p><p></p><p></p><p>A meaningless "<a href="https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/WebVideo/CinemaSins" target="_blank">CinemaSins</a> Ding"-type complaint.</p><p></p><p>It's literally not a real criticism, it's just sniping at a particular image, which could be easily explained by Ciri being aware that the monster wasn't near her, and thus drinking a potion the optimal way (which requires lifting your head back). In the actual TW3 there isn't even an animation when you drink a potion, it just instantly goes off - and we know from the previous games (and even the books) that witchers do drink potions on the fly with some frequency.</p><p></p><p></p><p>That seems to be a wrong assumption on your part.</p><p></p><p>You're assuming she doesn't have a strong sense of morality, but from the trailer, that's not true. She's not Geralt, who is a very shades-of-grey kind of guy (if extremely haughty/condescending and judgemental). She never has been - one of their points of contention has always been that she has a far more developed sense of morality than him, and has full human emotions, rather than the tamped-down ones Geralt has. The trailer indicates that this has not changed.</p><p></p><p>Ciri isn't Geralt. Time isn't going to make her into him - though I expect she will face some "Omg am I turning into Geralt?!" moments over the next three games.</p><p></p><p></p><p>That's possible but I'd be surprised if Geralt/Yennefer were involved because of the Lynx school issue.</p><p></p><p>The Lynx school has quite a lot of history - it's Keira Metz's witcher school, not Yennefer's, and I don't think either of those two would accept the other's work!</p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://the-witcher-fanon.fandom.com/wiki/School_of_the_Lynx[/URL]</p><p></p><p>As for "the new witchers are different", well, everything in the trailer says they're pretty similar. Indeed, it contains multiple callbacks to previous witcher trailers, so I'm not sure they'll be hugely different.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 9534621, member: 18"] It's not in-game nor using game assets so there's no requirement to use Unreal for the trailer. And Unreal has a sort of generic and slightly bland look unless used with great care. Your objection makes no sense to me if you played TW3 and saw the ending I noted. Did you play TW3? I would assume a Witcher fan like yourself would have. TW3's ending establishes that Ciri does probably go on to be a witcher! As for the "daddy Geralt", again, an objection which doesn't make sense given the story of the games/books - Geralt is completely unable to control Ciri, and doesn't even really want to! He is not "the boss of her"! He cares about her and is concerned for her, but their relationship has to come down to him allowing her to make her own decisions. So the say is ultimately hers - at worst he can choose to not [I]help[/I] her become a witcher. Further, we see pretty clear evidence that Geralt wasn't the one who trained her or who performed the Trial of Grasses, because she's wearing a Lynx medallion, not a Wolf one! Someone who wasn't Geralt did her proper training and administered the actual trial. Which might indicate that Geralt doesn't approve of the choice Ciri made, or might mean Geralt was out of the picture in some other way. [ATTACH type="full" alt="1734317822384.png"]389338[/ATTACH] See? Unquestionably Lynx, which is the revived Cat school combined with some Wolf ideas and some new stuff entirely. Because it ignores the [I]actual story[/I] shown in the trailer. Also, we don't know how experienced she is as a witcher, so assuming she's been hunting 24/7 since the end of the previous game is a little strange. One theory I've seen is that she tried being a "witcher" (i.e. a monster-hunter) with her own nigh-demi-god-like powers for a while, that didn't work out (possibly lost her powers somehow, or nearly died in a situation where a witcher wouldn't), and she took the Trial of Grasses and became a "proper" witcher. So she might actually be extremely new to the "normal" witcher business in a lot of ways. In fact, logically, that's highly likely - the game may well start with her pretty inexperienced. Note that this is the first game in a trilogy, too. This is the equivalent of Witcher 1, where Geralt is relatively green! Presumably because Ciri doesn't know [I]exactly[/I] what she's facing - it seems like she might have arrived pretty much that morning, from the intercutting between her preparing and the sacrificial victim being prepared. You know perfectly well that witchers often end up in situations where they essentially have to act [I]now[/I] and not in eight hours, or a day or a week as they'd prefer. Where they don't get to do reconnaissance and research. Where they have to drink a potion on the spot and not beforehand. To pretend otherwise is absolute shenanigans, and refuted by all three Witcher games (and the books to some extent). So she prepares as best she can - she sharpens her weapons, she has her chain ready, and she presumably has a number of potions prepared based on what she anticipates facing. Then she uses the appropriate one. (You bring up the Bloody Baron, but that's a counter-point to this - in the BB, Geralt has a ton of time to find out what's up, what's going on, and how to counteract it - and a good thing too, or everything would go much worse! It's not a strict "person already walking into forest" clock like this. When Geralt has to act relatively fast like this, things are often messier.) A meaningless "[URL='https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/WebVideo/CinemaSins']CinemaSins[/URL] Ding"-type complaint. It's literally not a real criticism, it's just sniping at a particular image, which could be easily explained by Ciri being aware that the monster wasn't near her, and thus drinking a potion the optimal way (which requires lifting your head back). In the actual TW3 there isn't even an animation when you drink a potion, it just instantly goes off - and we know from the previous games (and even the books) that witchers do drink potions on the fly with some frequency. That seems to be a wrong assumption on your part. You're assuming she doesn't have a strong sense of morality, but from the trailer, that's not true. She's not Geralt, who is a very shades-of-grey kind of guy (if extremely haughty/condescending and judgemental). She never has been - one of their points of contention has always been that she has a far more developed sense of morality than him, and has full human emotions, rather than the tamped-down ones Geralt has. The trailer indicates that this has not changed. Ciri isn't Geralt. Time isn't going to make her into him - though I expect she will face some "Omg am I turning into Geralt?!" moments over the next three games. That's possible but I'd be surprised if Geralt/Yennefer were involved because of the Lynx school issue. The Lynx school has quite a lot of history - it's Keira Metz's witcher school, not Yennefer's, and I don't think either of those two would accept the other's work! [URL unfurl="true"]https://the-witcher-fanon.fandom.com/wiki/School_of_the_Lynx[/URL] As for "the new witchers are different", well, everything in the trailer says they're pretty similar. Indeed, it contains multiple callbacks to previous witcher trailers, so I'm not sure they'll be hugely different. [/QUOTE]
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