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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nergal Pendragon" data-source="post: 6336888" data-attributes="member: 6777649">The OP asked what 4E will be remembered for. The thing is, I don't think what was actually true about the edition matters; it's more what people see.So, based on this thread and similar arguments across the internet, I will say it will probably be remembered for three things:<ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Division - It doesn't matter what the reality is, the simple truth is that there is a very, very visible division within the community that started when the edition was announced and simply did not die; it still remains, even to this day, and by all appearances is just as strong as when it started.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Failure - WotC dropped support after... how long? 3.5 years? It doesn't matter what reality is; a lot of people are most likely to see that simply as a failure of the system.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Pathfinder - Pathfinder really, really owes its existence to 4E. There's pretty much no questioning that. If 4E had been better handled, likely Paizo would never have made Pathfinder.</li> </ol>So, no matter what really occurred, I think those are the items it will be remembered for.</blockquote>