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<blockquote data-quote="TrippyHippy" data-source="post: 6336988" data-attributes="member: 27252"><p>Not true. In previous editions to 3E there wasn’t a <em>need</em> for miniatures or any other visual/tactile representation. From Basic D&D: </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Many groups chose not to - and certainly that was my experience when I first encountered the game. DMs may have scribbled some maps and stuff down, and in our group we generally nominated the order in which the party would walk, but we didn’t have miniatures and there was nothing in the rules that actually needed them to operate the game. Other groups I played with later literally played the game from armchairs without even a tabletop present!</p><p></p><p>In 3e the ‘attacks of opportunity’ rules, and the like, became more strident, but again this was controversial at the time, and many groups ignored them (indeed considering the wide variety of d20 products that didn’t use miniatures - it’s quite evident). </p><p></p><p>4E, however, made it pretty made the miniatures based rules central and integral to the game. Some have argued that this took the game back to it’s 1970s war-game roots - but again that is missing the point. D&D was an evolution away from miniatures-based war-games. It created a new genre of game - due to it’s ‘theatre of the mind’ aspect - and that is what people felt they lost in recent editions.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TrippyHippy, post: 6336988, member: 27252"] Not true. In previous editions to 3E there wasn’t a [I]need[/I] for miniatures or any other visual/tactile representation. From Basic D&D: Many groups chose not to - and certainly that was my experience when I first encountered the game. DMs may have scribbled some maps and stuff down, and in our group we generally nominated the order in which the party would walk, but we didn’t have miniatures and there was nothing in the rules that actually needed them to operate the game. Other groups I played with later literally played the game from armchairs without even a tabletop present! In 3e the ‘attacks of opportunity’ rules, and the like, became more strident, but again this was controversial at the time, and many groups ignored them (indeed considering the wide variety of d20 products that didn’t use miniatures - it’s quite evident). 4E, however, made it pretty made the miniatures based rules central and integral to the game. Some have argued that this took the game back to it’s 1970s war-game roots - but again that is missing the point. D&D was an evolution away from miniatures-based war-games. It created a new genre of game - due to it’s ‘theatre of the mind’ aspect - and that is what people felt they lost in recent editions. [/QUOTE]
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