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<blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 6337207" data-attributes="member: 87792">Given that 3.5 haemoherraged fans and 4e seemed to stop the rot this is questionable.&nbsp; <a href="http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=D%26D%2C%20Dungeons%20and%20Dragons%2C%20DDO" target="_blank">If we look at Google Trends</a>&nbsp; in the four years starting six months after the release of D&amp;D 3.5&nbsp; more than half the D&amp;D searches dropped off.&nbsp; In the five years starting six months after the release of 4e, the drop off was around 25%.Given that D&amp;D is and has always been a hacked tabletop wargame&nbsp; right the way back to the brown box, I'm not sure what point this is&nbsp; meant to raise.&nbsp; Other than that it's a more modern wargame.Indeed.They just measured distances in inches.&nbsp; And wanted exact measurements.The 3.5 rules on the other hand explicitly require a grid.&nbsp; A pattern that was followed by 4E.Tank/DPS/Support?&nbsp; What does that remind me of?&nbsp; Ah, yes.&nbsp;&nbsp; Fighter/Wizard (as battlefield artillery)/Cleric.&nbsp; The three classes in&nbsp; the Brown Box.&nbsp; 2E is very explicit about having roles - with there&nbsp; being four.&nbsp; These were not MMO things.&nbsp; They were things MMOs borrowed&nbsp; from D&amp;D.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Neonchameleon, post: 6337207, member: 87792"] Given that 3.5 haemoherraged fans and 4e seemed to stop the rot this is questionable. [URL="http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=D%26D%2C%20Dungeons%20and%20Dragons%2C%20DDO"]If we look at Google Trends[/URL] in the four years starting six months after the release of D&D 3.5 more than half the D&D searches dropped off. In the [I]five[/I] years starting six months after the release of 4e, the drop off was around 25%. Given that D&D is and has always been a hacked tabletop wargame right the way back to the brown box, I'm not sure what point this is meant to raise. Other than that it's a more modern wargame. Indeed. They just measured distances in inches. And wanted exact measurements. The 3.5 rules on the other hand explicitly require a grid. A pattern that was followed by 4E. Tank/DPS/Support? What does that remind me of? Ah, yes. Fighter/Wizard (as battlefield artillery)/Cleric. The three classes in the Brown Box. 2E is very explicit about having roles - with there being four. These were not MMO things. They were things MMOs borrowed from D&D. [/QUOTE]

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