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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 5986785" data-attributes="member: 22779">Sure there is.  There are all sorts of internally consistent reasons that fit perfectly well within the context of the game why dailies become unavailable.  The situation just didn't come up is probably the easiest one.  And, mind you, we're only discussing martial dailies, because you obviously have no problems with magic dailies, of any source.But, given that this issue has been beaten to death for years, and explanation after explanation has been offered, I really, really doubt that my saying this here is going to make the slightest difference.See, you pick on trip, as an example.  Umm, you do realize that you can trip in 4e perfectly well.  It's a melee basic attack, causes the target to go prone.  Done.  Works pretty much the same as a bull rush.  I really, REALLY wish, that after four or so years of people trotting out the same, tired, lame assed criticisms of 4e, we could actually move on and get to stuff that actually had anything of real value.  You want to talk about how Skill Challenges are borked?  I'm right behind you.  You want to talk about how combat is too slow in 4e?  Fair enough, that's something you can actually show lots of evidence for.But, constantly dragging out this sort of thing, yet again, buffing it off, and trying to pass it off as anything other than a misunderstanding of the system is just baffling to me.  Why?  What is being gained here?  We're right back down the rabbit hole of "4e isn't really D&D, so anything related to 4e should be dumped."  See, because there's the flipside of your point.  If equal numbers of people are playing Pathfinder as 4e, that means that 4e is just as popular as Pathfinder.  Since Pathfinder is apparently pretty popular and successful, why does that mean that 4e should be dumped down the toilet?</blockquote>

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