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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Emerikol" data-source="post: 5987292" data-attributes="member: 6698278">You could give me a hint.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />I've been on the WOTC boards for a long time.  Just came over here for a change.It's not surprising that people and in some cases independently arrive at the same conclusions about something.  Doesn't matter if it's a game or a car.  I do think as I said above that it's indicative that whatever it is bugging us it is something that is distinguishable and real.  Arguing whether it should bother us is kind of silly.  Things in games that bother you are not by choice.  They just do.I didn't hang on the 4e boards though bashing 4e.  I just dropped my DDI subscription and left.  I've returned hoping 5e will be a game I like to play.  So you can characterize me as an edition warrior but I really wasn't in the 4e wars much and if I had been I'd have been on the 4e side for the first half year probably.As much as possible, I would like to find ways to reach common ground.  I don't believe the martial daily is an essential component for many people.  It offers some complexity and variety that is essential.  But there may be other ways to get that effect without using a dissociative mechanic.  Where not able to compromise though I argue they should side with the majority and at this time I believe that is the non-4e crowd.</blockquote>

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