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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nagol" data-source="post: 5995469" data-attributes="member: 23935">That seems like a fair adjudication/house rule; the system has been altered sufficiently to warrant a new test.Hit points have been and remain a wonky game construct.  They are simple for the players so they survive.  I myself prefer the slight more complex Wound/Vitality/Endurance split.  Non-lethal hit points is 1e-3e were one way to model fatigue as evidenced by forced march and other long term damage.  Unfortunately, the game designers never settled on just one way to model that effect and left each form of the model nebulous.Although hp are wonky, I dispute that they are entirely meta-game.  A character has some form of feeling and can track his status over time.  The character may be capable of continued action, but the scrapes and strains are adding up, the character feels the counters and dodges getting weaker and knows it's only a matter of time until something telling lands.  Does he know the next one will be it?  No.  And it may not be; but it is likely soon.I never liked your example.  If I were at your table and the paladin said that, I'd tell him it was really the "professional" I was with last night not his god that sved his bacon.  And I'd be just as correct as he.  It ended because it ended because it will always end.  If the same power hit 4 of your PCs they all have to come up with justifications -- almost certainly different.</blockquote>