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<blockquote data-quote="Emerikol" data-source="post: 5997610" data-attributes="member: 6698278">There is a big difference between Not D&amp;D and Not an RPG.&nbsp; Fate is not D&amp;D.&nbsp; That doesn't reveal my opinion of Fate.&nbsp; Even if WOTC put the D&amp;D name on Fate, it would still be rational to say it's not D&amp;D.&nbsp; It's not the D&amp;D of the past thirty years.&nbsp;&nbsp; If you can't comprehend what people mean then please let this be your explanation.&nbsp; No one is saying D&amp;D is not on the cover.&nbsp; They are saying that it departs so far from D&amp;D that it's a different game.&nbsp; I don't believe Gygax would have sued a company that made 4e in 1974.&nbsp; He would have saw it as a different roleplaying game.&nbsp; Thats the point trying to be made.I think enworld's policy is good.&nbsp; I think WOTC boards are far too moderated.&nbsp; I don't see an issue with attack on an edition as long as you don't make it personal against the players.&nbsp; I think to be useful you have to be specific about what you don't like and not just say it's terrible.&nbsp; But hey I can skip those posts as useless without much bother.&nbsp; Same for comments about 3e or Pathfinder or any other game for that matter.&nbsp; I'm for freedom of speech.&nbsp; (and I realize enworld has the right to do anything not saying that.&nbsp; I'm just for allowing people more freedom thats all.)4e was universally panned by a large group of people (far larger than any other edition in my opinion) because it was different.&nbsp; Other people loved it because it was different.&nbsp; My issue to some degree is that those people who loved it had to be pretty dissatisfied with previous editions of D&amp;D up to that point.&nbsp; 4e bought into all kinds of design principles that were new to D&amp;D.&nbsp; We can argue all day about whether those principles are good or bad.&nbsp; I'd say bad but some of you would say good.&nbsp; Nothing wrong with different strokes for different folks.&nbsp; But if you don't understand why people got upset when a beloved game of thirty years veered design-wise in a totally new direction, then I think your sticking your head in the sand.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Emerikol, post: 5997610, member: 6698278"] There is a big difference between Not D&D and Not an RPG. Fate is not D&D. That doesn't reveal my opinion of Fate. Even if WOTC put the D&D name on Fate, it would still be rational to say it's not D&D. It's not the D&D of the past thirty years. If you can't comprehend what people mean then please let this be your explanation. No one is saying D&D is not on the cover. They are saying that it departs so far from D&D that it's a different game. I don't believe Gygax would have sued a company that made 4e in 1974. He would have saw it as a different roleplaying game. Thats the point trying to be made. I think enworld's policy is good. I think WOTC boards are far too moderated. I don't see an issue with attack on an edition as long as you don't make it personal against the players. I think to be useful you have to be specific about what you don't like and not just say it's terrible. But hey I can skip those posts as useless without much bother. Same for comments about 3e or Pathfinder or any other game for that matter. I'm for freedom of speech. (and I realize enworld has the right to do anything not saying that. I'm just for allowing people more freedom thats all.) 4e was universally panned by a large group of people (far larger than any other edition in my opinion) because it was different. Other people loved it because it was different. My issue to some degree is that those people who loved it had to be pretty dissatisfied with previous editions of D&D up to that point. 4e bought into all kinds of design principles that were new to D&D. We can argue all day about whether those principles are good or bad. I'd say bad but some of you would say good. Nothing wrong with different strokes for different folks. But if you don't understand why people got upset when a beloved game of thirty years veered design-wise in a totally new direction, then I think your sticking your head in the sand. [/QUOTE]

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