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<blockquote data-quote="Crazy Jerome" data-source="post: 5997708" data-attributes="member: 54877">Yes.&nbsp; Also, those statements are based on a biased, anecdotal history of what D&amp;D is--not consistent with the debates in the letters of Dragon magazine, and implied by various competing articles and even house rules--not to mention the personal history of others.&nbsp;It's not an accident that some of these same people, at the launch of 4E, kept trying to say things like, &quot;If you'd be around at the beginning, you'd know why 4E isn't acceptable.&quot;&nbsp; Then they had to drop that line of attack when it became apparent that a bunch of us were around at or near the beginning (at least after the mimeographed original), but nevertheless saw good things in 4E that the early D&amp;D had suggested but largely failed to deliver. That initial line shows an overly narrow view of what D&amp;D, in fact, was in its early days.&nbsp;Though, I still say at least a quarter of the screaming about 4E is really about WotC business practices and the OGL, rather than anything about 4E in particular. This gets magnified on message boards, because particular oxen were gored.&nbsp; Some people like Macs because they like Macs.&nbsp; Some people like Apple because they are poking Microsoft in the eye.&nbsp; Same principle.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Crazy Jerome, post: 5997708, member: 54877"] Yes. Also, those statements are based on a biased, anecdotal history of what D&D is--not consistent with the debates in the letters of Dragon magazine, and implied by various competing articles and even house rules--not to mention the personal history of others. It's not an accident that some of these same people, at the launch of 4E, kept trying to say things like, "If you'd be around at the beginning, you'd know why 4E isn't acceptable." Then they had to drop that line of attack when it became apparent that a bunch of us were around at or near the beginning (at least after the mimeographed original), but nevertheless saw good things in 4E that the early D&D had suggested but largely failed to deliver. That initial line shows an overly narrow view of what D&D, in fact, was in its early days. Though, I still say at least a quarter of the screaming about 4E is really about WotC business practices and the OGL, rather than anything about 4E in particular. This gets magnified on message boards, because particular oxen were gored. Some people like Macs because they like Macs. Some people like Apple because they are poking Microsoft in the eye. Same principle. [/QUOTE]

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