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<blockquote data-quote="Emerikol" data-source="post: 5998525" data-attributes="member: 6698278"><p><span style="color: red"><strong>Mod Note:</strong> See my post below. ~Umbran</span></p><p></p><p></p><p>You guys are like politicians on tv interviews that never answer a question, always dodge the true intent of a statement.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Not a chance. Not even a 1 in billion chance.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So you have hang ups. When I say 4e is not D&D, I mean that it is not sufficiently related to it's predecessers to be considered a version of them. It is an entirely new game. I'm perfectly within my rights to believe that and saying "4e is not D&D" is a succint way to put it. I hope we all are intelligent enough we don't have to put "In my opinion" in front of everything.</p><p></p><p></p><p>4e is dead. So I don't even care to attack it as it's own game. I am merely battling to keep it's influence from being too strong in 5e. Because one of the hallmarks of 4e thinking is that "we know best and you just do as we say and stop complaining." 4e presented "one way or the highway" for playing. The tidal wave of anger and resentment and the thousands (no millions) of posts against it didn't appear for no reason. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Your attempts at proving 3e is the outlier is ridiculous. Your inability to understand the difference between abstraction and dissociative mechanics is ridiculous. D&D including 3e has never lacked abstraction. Until 4e it didn't have dissociative mechanics. It had things that SOME people interpreted dissociatively but it was easily avoidable by everyone else.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I already don't take you seriously.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I played all versions of D&D until 4e in the same way. 4e was the radically different one. I leave it to you to figure out why.</p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Your view of the world is a milliion miles beyond left field in outer space. Lets just drop it. Productive discussion with you is at an end. I'm surprised you even believe english is a language. Start doubting that next.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: red"><strong>Mod Note:</strong> See my post below. ~Umbran</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Emerikol, post: 5998525, member: 6698278"] [color=red][B]Mod Note:[/B] See my post below. ~Umbran[/color] You guys are like politicians on tv interviews that never answer a question, always dodge the true intent of a statement. Not a chance. Not even a 1 in billion chance. So you have hang ups. When I say 4e is not D&D, I mean that it is not sufficiently related to it's predecessers to be considered a version of them. It is an entirely new game. I'm perfectly within my rights to believe that and saying "4e is not D&D" is a succint way to put it. I hope we all are intelligent enough we don't have to put "In my opinion" in front of everything. 4e is dead. So I don't even care to attack it as it's own game. I am merely battling to keep it's influence from being too strong in 5e. Because one of the hallmarks of 4e thinking is that "we know best and you just do as we say and stop complaining." 4e presented "one way or the highway" for playing. The tidal wave of anger and resentment and the thousands (no millions) of posts against it didn't appear for no reason. Your attempts at proving 3e is the outlier is ridiculous. Your inability to understand the difference between abstraction and dissociative mechanics is ridiculous. D&D including 3e has never lacked abstraction. Until 4e it didn't have dissociative mechanics. It had things that SOME people interpreted dissociatively but it was easily avoidable by everyone else. I already don't take you seriously. I played all versions of D&D until 4e in the same way. 4e was the radically different one. I leave it to you to figure out why. Your view of the world is a milliion miles beyond left field in outer space. Lets just drop it. Productive discussion with you is at an end. I'm surprised you even believe english is a language. Start doubting that next. [color=red][B]Mod Note:[/B] See my post below. ~Umbran[/color] [/QUOTE]
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