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<blockquote data-quote="D'karr" data-source="post: 6013432" data-attributes="member: 336">Since I never had a problem with this I'll just agree to disagree with you.&nbsp; I can rule it both ways, but I have no problem with the gnolls disregarding their orders to &quot;guard&quot; something when they see the tasty morsel.So it's a matter of terminology?&nbsp; Call it off-balance and get on with it, not even a need to change the base mechanics.&nbsp; Taking &quot;rules&quot; terminology and assigning it the same weight/definition as &quot;language&quot; terminology might not be the best way to read the &quot;jargon&quot;, which the rules clearly are.Because their fuses are not waterproofed/sealed and the chemical reaction still requires &quot;air&quot;.&nbsp; Depth charges on the other hand do &quot;light&quot; underwater.&nbsp; Which the rules specifically call out.&nbsp; When the players are describing their action the DM can easily tell them that what they are doing is not going to work.&nbsp; There was great furor around here when people read that attempting an intimidate check on the sample &quot;Duke Negotiation&quot; skill challenge would be an auto-fail.&nbsp; Nerdrage is such a wonderfully entertaining phenomenon.IMO, applying rules to the ridiculous extreme, specially in an RPG, is not a way to gauge the validity of a rules element.&nbsp; YMMV.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="D'karr, post: 6013432, member: 336"] Since I never had a problem with this I'll just agree to disagree with you. I can rule it both ways, but I have no problem with the gnolls disregarding their orders to "guard" something when they see the tasty morsel. So it's a matter of terminology? Call it off-balance and get on with it, not even a need to change the base mechanics. Taking "rules" terminology and assigning it the same weight/definition as "language" terminology might not be the best way to read the "jargon", which the rules clearly are. Because their fuses are not waterproofed/sealed and the chemical reaction still requires "air". Depth charges on the other hand do "light" underwater. Which the rules specifically call out. When the players are describing their action the DM can easily tell them that what they are doing is not going to work. There was great furor around here when people read that attempting an intimidate check on the sample "Duke Negotiation" skill challenge would be an auto-fail. Nerdrage is such a wonderfully entertaining phenomenon. IMO, applying rules to the ridiculous extreme, specially in an RPG, is not a way to gauge the validity of a rules element. YMMV. [/QUOTE]

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