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<blockquote data-quote="Majoru Oakheart" data-source="post: 4269751" data-attributes="member: 5143"><p>Fair enough. I agree that seems to be the way it is intended. However, all of the rules seem to be written from the point of view of every class except wizard. So, it naturally assumes that anyone is planning on swapping the ONE 1st level spell they know for ONE 15th. And it is worded this way. Unfortunately, it doesn't say anything about what happens when you have 3 1st level spells.</p><p></p><p>If you are allowed to choose how many to swap, then you end up in a weird situation, where you only have ONE 15th level daily and TWO 1st level dailies. So, you either have an extra slot than everyone else(as you can now prepare a spell of 15th as well as all the levels before it) or you don't have a choice of multiple 15th level powers like the book assumes and the 1st level powers are useless.</p><p></p><p></p><p>They don't say that at all. They say that you can choose any power up to the highest level available to you and that you can use each power once. So, although unlikely, a Ranger could decide to swap his 1st level power for an extra 9th when he becomes 15th level. He can still use both 9th level dailies each day.</p><p></p><p>All the table says is "3" for that level. Which is the number of Daily powers known. It just implies that you can use each power you know once. So it doesn't matter if they are all 1st level or spread out amongst the levels, you just simply keep track of each one, whether it is used or not.</p><p></p><p></p><p>As above, spell slots aren't assigned to level. Although, I'm fairly certain that's the way they expected people to read it.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Here's what I'm looking at:</p><p></p><p>-You get to 15th</p><p>-You don't get new spells</p><p>-You can trade lower level spells for 15th</p><p>-You trade one of your 1st level spells for a 15th</p><p>-You now only have 2 first level spells and 1 15th level</p><p>-You can't have those numbers since your feat says that whenever you gain a spell of a level, you gain 3 instead, and you just gained 15th level spells</p><p>-The feat/class feature triggers, giving you 2 more 15th level powers without removing any of your 1st level powers.</p><p>-Now you have too many spells</p><p></p><p>So something is wrong about the situation.</p><p></p><p>If you want to know how I think it is SUPPOSED to be worded, then I think it SHOULD work like this:</p><p></p><p>-Whenever you swap a spell of a level, you must swap all spells of that level</p><p>-You can cast 1 spell of each level you know, with a choice of 2(or 3) spells at each of those levels</p><p></p><p>But it's not written even remotely like that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Majoru Oakheart, post: 4269751, member: 5143"] Fair enough. I agree that seems to be the way it is intended. However, all of the rules seem to be written from the point of view of every class except wizard. So, it naturally assumes that anyone is planning on swapping the ONE 1st level spell they know for ONE 15th. And it is worded this way. Unfortunately, it doesn't say anything about what happens when you have 3 1st level spells. If you are allowed to choose how many to swap, then you end up in a weird situation, where you only have ONE 15th level daily and TWO 1st level dailies. So, you either have an extra slot than everyone else(as you can now prepare a spell of 15th as well as all the levels before it) or you don't have a choice of multiple 15th level powers like the book assumes and the 1st level powers are useless. They don't say that at all. They say that you can choose any power up to the highest level available to you and that you can use each power once. So, although unlikely, a Ranger could decide to swap his 1st level power for an extra 9th when he becomes 15th level. He can still use both 9th level dailies each day. All the table says is "3" for that level. Which is the number of Daily powers known. It just implies that you can use each power you know once. So it doesn't matter if they are all 1st level or spread out amongst the levels, you just simply keep track of each one, whether it is used or not. As above, spell slots aren't assigned to level. Although, I'm fairly certain that's the way they expected people to read it. Here's what I'm looking at: -You get to 15th -You don't get new spells -You can trade lower level spells for 15th -You trade one of your 1st level spells for a 15th -You now only have 2 first level spells and 1 15th level -You can't have those numbers since your feat says that whenever you gain a spell of a level, you gain 3 instead, and you just gained 15th level spells -The feat/class feature triggers, giving you 2 more 15th level powers without removing any of your 1st level powers. -Now you have too many spells So something is wrong about the situation. If you want to know how I think it is SUPPOSED to be worded, then I think it SHOULD work like this: -Whenever you swap a spell of a level, you must swap all spells of that level -You can cast 1 spell of each level you know, with a choice of 2(or 3) spells at each of those levels But it's not written even remotely like that. [/QUOTE]
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