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<blockquote data-quote="Trevelyan" data-source="post: 4281441" data-attributes="member: 54488"><p>The fact that customer service can't get their act together on this is hardly new, but it does have the unfortunate consequence that any of their answers are suspect until something more concrete comes out.</p><p></p><p>I also get the feeling that they have a large number of people who are stuck in the "refer back to general rule" mindset, rather than the new 4E "exception based" design concept. </p><p></p><p>Per pg 11 of the PHB, whenever a specific rule ignores or appears to break a general rule, the specific rule takes precidence. By that rule, the specific spellbook class feature of the wizard should override he general retraining rule whenever those two rules conflict, yet the customer service answer refers back to the general rule in the face of an apparent ambiguity. That approach doesn't work where the ambiguity could be the result of a specific rule overriding the general.</p><p></p><p>Two questions need to be answered. </p><p></p><p> <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/1.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":1:" title="One :1:" data-shortname=":1:" /> Is level 15 considered a level "that let's you select a daily spell"? (i.e. is the intention to make a distinction between selecting a new spell and retraining an old spell).</p><p></p><p> <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/2.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":2:" title="Two :2:" data-shortname=":2:" /> How does this interact with retraining and replacing, especially since retraining and replacing spells apparently use exactly the same mechanic (swap on a one for one basis), yet one customer service response suggests that they sholdn't.</p><p></p><p>Personally I'd want to see an official errata or designer comment rather than a wonky customer service piece.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Trevelyan, post: 4281441, member: 54488"] The fact that customer service can't get their act together on this is hardly new, but it does have the unfortunate consequence that any of their answers are suspect until something more concrete comes out. I also get the feeling that they have a large number of people who are stuck in the "refer back to general rule" mindset, rather than the new 4E "exception based" design concept. Per pg 11 of the PHB, whenever a specific rule ignores or appears to break a general rule, the specific rule takes precidence. By that rule, the specific spellbook class feature of the wizard should override he general retraining rule whenever those two rules conflict, yet the customer service answer refers back to the general rule in the face of an apparent ambiguity. That approach doesn't work where the ambiguity could be the result of a specific rule overriding the general. Two questions need to be answered. :1: Is level 15 considered a level "that let's you select a daily spell"? (i.e. is the intention to make a distinction between selecting a new spell and retraining an old spell). :2: How does this interact with retraining and replacing, especially since retraining and replacing spells apparently use exactly the same mechanic (swap on a one for one basis), yet one customer service response suggests that they sholdn't. Personally I'd want to see an official errata or designer comment rather than a wonky customer service piece. [/QUOTE]
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