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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 5045336" data-attributes="member: 82106">No, because it was broken from day one. You don't need anything but the PHB to make an epic stun locking orbizard. At worst its just there are now multiple paths to doing the same thing and if your DM is willing to gift you with all the right items at the very lowest level they become available you can be there now in early to mid paragon level. Also its an odd kind of "power creep". Orb wizard is exactly as strong as it was on day one, there are now just 5 ways to stack it up to get there. On top of that there is the definitively broken "Orb of Inescapable Consequences" which DOES make it "more broken" but that's an issue of one single item that you simply toss from your game (and its one of very few).There are also more than one type of power creep. Straight up power creep is the old "I can get a higher to-hit bonus after book X" kind of creep. That really largely doesn't exist in 4e. The expertise feats being the exception but one that applies uniformly to all PCs (almost) and was obviously intended to be a power boost from the start. The other kind of power creep is "option creep" where the more good options exist the more you'll take and the more power you have in some sense. That really is simply inevitable. You literally cannot put out a new book and not have extra options that logically need to be on roughly a par with the existing options. If you want to never have option creep then you better just not ever play in a system that publishes ANY supplements. I also don't think this is legitimate to call power creep at all. Its more accurate to say that 4e core is not a totally complete system. Its only with the PHB2, AV1, and the first (now finished) round of Power books that the system is really complete and at its DESIGNED level of power for PCs. In other words a PHB only group is a tad underpowered really. Power creep is when things were great and they got worse as stuff was added. We're not seeing that with 4e.  The wizard is the poster child for this. PHB wizards are OK and playable but pretty limited and a bit under powered. PHB STR Paladin is an even more blatant example. These two classes really cannot be considered complete WITHOUT their respective splatbooks.</blockquote>

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