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<blockquote data-quote="Hunter" data-source="post: 1202711" data-attributes="member: 14845"><p>Thanks again Dirigible for the advice</p><p>Strange as it sounds I never thought of Beholder eyes or Ningauble for ideas for this player.</p><p>I was thinking, Couatl, Ki-Rin, Iron Golem eyes when you posted that suggestion.</p><p>I guess its because I was to close to the plotline as well as the fact that Beholders are some of my favorite monsters.</p><p>I try to keep my favorites out of game until I come to a really juicy plot/story line in the campaign. Usually when the party gets more experienced and the campaign escalates.</p><p></p><p>With your suggestion however this really opens up the possibilities of a Beholder monster/ally storyline in my game.</p><p>I am thinking along the lines of the player gaining the ability to communcate through flashing his eyes and moving his stalks in a primitive sign-like language indigenous to Beholders. I know they know languages and speak of course but they might also have a private language only their race can speak: like a thieves cant. </p><p>Something that is intregal to their race and cannot be mimicked except through the eyes. </p><p></p><p>Although the player only has two eyes so maybe it would be like the Beholders are talking to one of their own albeit a mental retard.</p><p>They of course would know he is human or humanoid but the added acquisition of beholder eyes and the communication may cause them to pause and communicate with this oddity.</p><p>Whatever, just thinking aloud.</p><p>I'll be able to know more once I get The Complete Guide to Beholders.</p><p></p><p>By the way you wouldn’t happen to go by another user name on this site:</p><p>Say by the name of Black Dirge? Hm? Curious.</p><p></p><p>Also don’t think for a minute that I am handing my players the Staff of the Magi and requiste treasure. By balancing the stats and adding magical tomes that will ‘possibly’ enable the player to win the day I have far from given it to him. The tomes will be placed inside the dungeon for him to find if he is ingenious.</p><p>Also given the extra power he is still not sure of victory.</p><p>Against Tiamat he has a small fighting chance at best. He could very well be fried/crushed/eaten.</p><p>His allies as well I gave him are at best neutral to him. A 10th level Troglodyte Chieftain, (with body guards) two 12th half-orc fighters with one 16th level evil fighter who once knew and fought alongside one of the fighter players as mercenaries years ago, one NPC Timitrious Spartakos (updated to 3e from old Greyhawk adventures) with Efreeti Bottle, and 5 assasin/priests of Ekbir that follow a scorpion god similar to the serpent cult in the first Conan Movie.</p><p></p><p>They supply a lot of conflict in the party especially with the troop of dwarves coming along as well.</p><p></p><p>Its all the player can do to placate both sides to continue with the mission</p><p>They can betray and destroy the player characters at any given time in the adventure. And the way I play NPCs they will make an attempt. Sooner or latrer.</p><p>One player (a fighter dragonslayer) has already lost his right eye fighting Abishai. They have at the moment charmed a Red Abishai that is leading them down the dungeon below.</p><p>Anyway thanks again!</p><p></p><p>~H</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hunter, post: 1202711, member: 14845"] Thanks again Dirigible for the advice Strange as it sounds I never thought of Beholder eyes or Ningauble for ideas for this player. I was thinking, Couatl, Ki-Rin, Iron Golem eyes when you posted that suggestion. I guess its because I was to close to the plotline as well as the fact that Beholders are some of my favorite monsters. I try to keep my favorites out of game until I come to a really juicy plot/story line in the campaign. Usually when the party gets more experienced and the campaign escalates. With your suggestion however this really opens up the possibilities of a Beholder monster/ally storyline in my game. I am thinking along the lines of the player gaining the ability to communcate through flashing his eyes and moving his stalks in a primitive sign-like language indigenous to Beholders. I know they know languages and speak of course but they might also have a private language only their race can speak: like a thieves cant. Something that is intregal to their race and cannot be mimicked except through the eyes. Although the player only has two eyes so maybe it would be like the Beholders are talking to one of their own albeit a mental retard. They of course would know he is human or humanoid but the added acquisition of beholder eyes and the communication may cause them to pause and communicate with this oddity. Whatever, just thinking aloud. I'll be able to know more once I get The Complete Guide to Beholders. By the way you wouldn’t happen to go by another user name on this site: Say by the name of Black Dirge? Hm? Curious. Also don’t think for a minute that I am handing my players the Staff of the Magi and requiste treasure. By balancing the stats and adding magical tomes that will ‘possibly’ enable the player to win the day I have far from given it to him. The tomes will be placed inside the dungeon for him to find if he is ingenious. Also given the extra power he is still not sure of victory. Against Tiamat he has a small fighting chance at best. He could very well be fried/crushed/eaten. His allies as well I gave him are at best neutral to him. A 10th level Troglodyte Chieftain, (with body guards) two 12th half-orc fighters with one 16th level evil fighter who once knew and fought alongside one of the fighter players as mercenaries years ago, one NPC Timitrious Spartakos (updated to 3e from old Greyhawk adventures) with Efreeti Bottle, and 5 assasin/priests of Ekbir that follow a scorpion god similar to the serpent cult in the first Conan Movie. They supply a lot of conflict in the party especially with the troop of dwarves coming along as well. Its all the player can do to placate both sides to continue with the mission They can betray and destroy the player characters at any given time in the adventure. And the way I play NPCs they will make an attempt. Sooner or latrer. One player (a fighter dragonslayer) has already lost his right eye fighting Abishai. They have at the moment charmed a Red Abishai that is leading them down the dungeon below. Anyway thanks again! ~H [/QUOTE]
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