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<blockquote data-quote="Yaarel" data-source="post: 9124019" data-attributes="member: 58172">[USER=23484]@Kobold Stew[/USER] and [USER=6871653]@Tales and Chronicles[/USER]Maybe I am ok with a Passive Investigation triggering &quot;suspicion&quot; about an illusion, but not with it seeing thru the illusion.Even then, I am left with the problem of determining when monsters who failed the Passive Investigation might become suspicious afterward.It depends on what an illusion is.If an illusion is an artwork, then a successful illusion would require the Illusionist to make a Performance check to determine how realistic the illusion is.As-is, the magic of illusion spells seems to form perfect images − so perfect, even a Perception check wont notice a flaw. So an illusion spell seems more like a magical photograph, sotospeak: the image is perfect.Even an novice Trickster would still magic a perfect illusion with regard to the image itself. It would be other kinds of tell, that alert the viewer that something is off.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Yaarel, post: 9124019, member: 58172"] [USER=23484]@Kobold Stew[/USER] and [USER=6871653]@Tales and Chronicles[/USER] Maybe I am ok with a Passive Investigation triggering "suspicion" about an illusion, but not with it seeing thru the illusion. Even then, I am left with the problem of determining when monsters who failed the Passive Investigation might become suspicious afterward. It depends on what an illusion is. If an illusion is an artwork, then a successful illusion would require the Illusionist to make a Performance check to determine how realistic the illusion is. As-is, the magic of illusion spells seems to form perfect images − so perfect, even a Perception check wont notice a flaw. So an illusion spell seems more like a magical photograph, sotospeak: the image is perfect. Even an novice Trickster would still magic a perfect illusion with regard to the image itself. It would be other kinds of tell, that alert the viewer that something is off. [/QUOTE]

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