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<blockquote data-quote="Beretta" data-source="post: 1611238" data-attributes="member: 12260"><p>Hi all,</p><p></p><p>The DM and I are having a disagreement with respect to Prestige Classes and the two free spells a wizard gets to add to their spellbook at every level.</p><p></p><p>The DM believes that if a wizard takes a Prestige Class (specifically, a PrC that has spell progression), then they do not get the two free spells to add to their spellbook when they add levels in a spellcasting Prestige Class (such as Loremaster). He claims that it is a Wizard's special ability, and that Prestige Classes specifically state that they do not gain class benefits. So taking levels in Loremaster or Eldritch Knight (from 2nd level onward for the EK) means that no new spells are added to his spellbok for free.</p><p></p><p>I disagree for the following reasons:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Also:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Now, the DM claims that the FAQ is wrong. Not much I can say to that except to say that I think <em>he's</em> the one who is wrong. </p><p></p><p>As to the other point I raised, in comparing the two quotes between sorcerer and wizard, I haven't gotten any feedback except to say that he hasn't made a ruling on sorcerer's since there isn't one in the party. I bring up the quote in support of my argument, in that if we used his interpretation for the sorcerer as he has done for the wizard (since the wording is almost identical), it would mean that a sorcerer taking a level in a Prestige Class would not gain any Spells Known (though they would increase in Spell Progression). If that were the case then you would never see any sorcerer's taking a Prestige Classes. If he were to rule it the other way, then he'd be guilty of a double-standard since sorcerer's would gain Spells Known as a sorcerer even though they chose to advance a level in a Prestige Class. </p><p></p><p>The DM believes that the rules are unambigious in supporting his argument; obviously I hold a different opinion and am hoping that some of you out there might tell me which side of interpretation you weigh in on.</p><p></p><p>Thanks!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Beretta, post: 1611238, member: 12260"] Hi all, The DM and I are having a disagreement with respect to Prestige Classes and the two free spells a wizard gets to add to their spellbook at every level. The DM believes that if a wizard takes a Prestige Class (specifically, a PrC that has spell progression), then they do not get the two free spells to add to their spellbook when they add levels in a spellcasting Prestige Class (such as Loremaster). He claims that it is a Wizard's special ability, and that Prestige Classes specifically state that they do not gain class benefits. So taking levels in Loremaster or Eldritch Knight (from 2nd level onward for the EK) means that no new spells are added to his spellbok for free. I disagree for the following reasons: Also: Now, the DM claims that the FAQ is wrong. Not much I can say to that except to say that I think [i]he's[/i] the one who is wrong. As to the other point I raised, in comparing the two quotes between sorcerer and wizard, I haven't gotten any feedback except to say that he hasn't made a ruling on sorcerer's since there isn't one in the party. I bring up the quote in support of my argument, in that if we used his interpretation for the sorcerer as he has done for the wizard (since the wording is almost identical), it would mean that a sorcerer taking a level in a Prestige Class would not gain any Spells Known (though they would increase in Spell Progression). If that were the case then you would never see any sorcerer's taking a Prestige Classes. If he were to rule it the other way, then he'd be guilty of a double-standard since sorcerer's would gain Spells Known as a sorcerer even though they chose to advance a level in a Prestige Class. The DM believes that the rules are unambigious in supporting his argument; obviously I hold a different opinion and am hoping that some of you out there might tell me which side of interpretation you weigh in on. Thanks! [/QUOTE]
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