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Message: <blockquote data-quote="MadLordOfMilk" data-source="post: 4638175" data-attributes="member: 77691">Realistically, you're looking at -2 from spell focus (paragon tier feat) and -1/-2/-3 (levels 7, 17, 27 respectively) from Phrenic Crown. Ultimately that means heroic tier will only have a constant -1 for 7+, paragon will only have -3 initially then later -4, and way way WAY deep into epic tier you'll see -5.I disregarded the sword because the WST PP is hard to argue as a great choice of Paragon Path for an orb wizard; Divine Oracle is absolutely insane by comparison, and is arguably one of if not the best choice. WST at most will get you some minuses to will saves with that sword and there's really not a ton else it lends to an orb wiz. Also, a -9 is still saveable, it just requires a 19 or 20 to save assuming zero bonuses to saving throws. WST is just bad compared to Divine Oracle, which can practically guarantee you're either at or very close to the top of the initiative and can't be surprised, and it will make sure your will attacks land with incredible frequency by letting you roll twice on the attack rolls. And I haven't even touched the usefulness of the powers... if a player really takes WST to get those potential few extra points off of saves as an orb-focused Wizard, you should probably sigh in relief as a DM. (Of course, the -9 goes great with Legion's Hold, but basing your PP around one daily you get 18 levels later is silly. Particularly because that -9 drops to -2 if you don't have your gear readily accessible or a similar problem, and the build doesn't work if your DM doesn't let you have all of those items at once.)</blockquote>

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