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<blockquote data-quote="MadLordOfMilk" data-source="post: 4641166" data-attributes="member: 77691"><p>OK, lv21 Orb Wizard designed simply around being a controller. Does the sleep trick just dandy, without sacrificing anything to do so... I'm still not getting where the whole "you need to make soooo many sacrifices" thing is coming from. The Orb of Karmic Focus is a decent choice without needing to use it specifically to force the failed save vs slow, but it helps a lot in that department. Phrenic Crown is used by half the dailies, and Legion's Hold also makes <em>great</em> use of it once he's lv29. <strong>Getting to this point is completely playable from lv1 to 21</strong>, and is still pretty optimized.</p><p></p><p><strong>Race</strong>: Elf</p><p><strong>Class</strong>: Wizard / Divine Oracle / Demigod</p><p><strong>Level</strong>: 21</p><p></p><p><strong>STATS</strong></p><p>STR 10 (+0)</p><p>CON 12 (+1)</p><p>DEX 16 (+3)</p><p>INT 24 (+7)</p><p>WIS 26 (+8)</p><p>CHA 14 (+2)</p><p></p><p>Init: +22, Roll twice and take whichever result you want (Divine Oracle)</p><p>HP: 115 (bloodied 57), Surges: 9 (28hp/ea)</p><p>AC, Fort, Ref, Will: 33, 23, 27, 30</p><p></p><p>"Base" Spell to-hit bonus: </p><p>10 (half level) + 7 (Int mod) + 4 (implement) = <strong>+21</strong></p><p>-Can reroll 1/encounter using Elven Accuracy! (Elf)</p><p>-Can roll twice and take higher result for Will attacks; dazed one round if you do it misses (Divine Oracle)</p><p></p><p>Penalty to enemy saves: <strong>-12</strong>(will atk w/orb) / -4(if will atk) / -2 (all)</p><p>Sources: -2 (Spell Focus), -2 (Phrenic Crown), -8 (Orb of Imposition)</p><p></p><p>Misc: Party cannot be surprised in combat, Gain a free move action to use any turn during encounter when you use an action point (Divine Oracle)</p><p></p><p><strong>Trained Skills</strong>: Arcana (+22), Nature (+25), Insight (+23), History (+22), Religion (+22), Perception (+25, optional)</p><p></p><p><strong>Feats</strong>: Improved Initiative, Toughness, Armor Proficiency (Leather), Initiate of the Faith, Durable, Elven Precision, Spell Focus, Resounding Thunder, Arcane Reach, Uncanny Dodge, Great Fortitude, Arcane Mastery, Spell Accuracy (Two Epic tier feats via retraining. You can also switch out great fort/toughness/durable or something for perception skill training if you want it as your WIS is very, very high and you have +2 from elf...)</p><p></p><p><strong>Powers</strong>: At Will - Thunderwave, Ray of Frost</p><p>Encounter - Prophecy of Doom, Force Volley, Prismatic Burst, Winter's Wrath, Elven Accuracy</p><p>Daily - Hammer of Fate, Evard's Black Tentacles, Prismatic Beams, Sleep, Healing Word (cleric MC)</p><p>Utility - Good Omens, Stoneskin, Arcane Gate, Wall of Fog, Shield</p><p>(Note: Did not list spellbook's dailies as they're not terribly relevant. pick whatever other powers you'd find useful...)</p><p></p><p><strong>Equipment</strong>:</p><p>-Phrenic Crown Lv17 (-2 to opponent's saves against will attack save ends)</p><p>-Orb of Karmic Resonance +4</p><p>-Some sort of magical +4 Leather armor (Displacer? idk)</p><p>-225,000gp for w/e else you need</p><p>Note: I gave him a lv21 item's value in gold instead of lv20 because two two of the items he got were low level... but yeah, technically it should be 125k not 225k</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MadLordOfMilk, post: 4641166, member: 77691"] OK, lv21 Orb Wizard designed simply around being a controller. Does the sleep trick just dandy, without sacrificing anything to do so... I'm still not getting where the whole "you need to make soooo many sacrifices" thing is coming from. The Orb of Karmic Focus is a decent choice without needing to use it specifically to force the failed save vs slow, but it helps a lot in that department. Phrenic Crown is used by half the dailies, and Legion's Hold also makes [I]great[/I] use of it once he's lv29. [B]Getting to this point is completely playable from lv1 to 21[/B], and is still pretty optimized. [B]Race[/B]: Elf [B]Class[/B]: Wizard / Divine Oracle / Demigod [B]Level[/B]: 21 [B]STATS[/B] STR 10 (+0) CON 12 (+1) DEX 16 (+3) INT 24 (+7) WIS 26 (+8) CHA 14 (+2) Init: +22, Roll twice and take whichever result you want (Divine Oracle) HP: 115 (bloodied 57), Surges: 9 (28hp/ea) AC, Fort, Ref, Will: 33, 23, 27, 30 "Base" Spell to-hit bonus: 10 (half level) + 7 (Int mod) + 4 (implement) = [B]+21[/B] -Can reroll 1/encounter using Elven Accuracy! (Elf) -Can roll twice and take higher result for Will attacks; dazed one round if you do it misses (Divine Oracle) Penalty to enemy saves: [B]-12[/B](will atk w/orb) / -4(if will atk) / -2 (all) Sources: -2 (Spell Focus), -2 (Phrenic Crown), -8 (Orb of Imposition) Misc: Party cannot be surprised in combat, Gain a free move action to use any turn during encounter when you use an action point (Divine Oracle) [B]Trained Skills[/B]: Arcana (+22), Nature (+25), Insight (+23), History (+22), Religion (+22), Perception (+25, optional) [B]Feats[/B]: Improved Initiative, Toughness, Armor Proficiency (Leather), Initiate of the Faith, Durable, Elven Precision, Spell Focus, Resounding Thunder, Arcane Reach, Uncanny Dodge, Great Fortitude, Arcane Mastery, Spell Accuracy (Two Epic tier feats via retraining. You can also switch out great fort/toughness/durable or something for perception skill training if you want it as your WIS is very, very high and you have +2 from elf...) [B]Powers[/B]: At Will - Thunderwave, Ray of Frost Encounter - Prophecy of Doom, Force Volley, Prismatic Burst, Winter's Wrath, Elven Accuracy Daily - Hammer of Fate, Evard's Black Tentacles, Prismatic Beams, Sleep, Healing Word (cleric MC) Utility - Good Omens, Stoneskin, Arcane Gate, Wall of Fog, Shield (Note: Did not list spellbook's dailies as they're not terribly relevant. pick whatever other powers you'd find useful...) [B]Equipment[/B]: -Phrenic Crown Lv17 (-2 to opponent's saves against will attack save ends) -Orb of Karmic Resonance +4 -Some sort of magical +4 Leather armor (Displacer? idk) -225,000gp for w/e else you need Note: I gave him a lv21 item's value in gold instead of lv20 because two two of the items he got were low level... but yeah, technically it should be 125k not 225k [/QUOTE]
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