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<blockquote data-quote="hopeless" data-source="post: 2840297" data-attributes="member: 36349"><p><strong>Reg: Sorceror's & Wizards</strong></p><p></p><p>The problem is that the person who ran the Paladin runs the Forgotten Realms camapign where the DM of the Greyhawk campaign runs a dwarven fighter who the DM arranged for his war axe to be enchanted by the hand of his goddess which was pretty cool at the time since my character wasn't mesmerised and treated it as sign he was on good terms with his own god, a concept the DM decided to correct on a number of occasions eventually causing my current spate of rants. I'm hoping to overcome this problem and have a singular advantage in that I have seen someone run a Paladin UTTERLY BRILLIANTLY without any of this zealot rubbish. He used his code to beat a number of traps I had previously designed and later thought were overkill and roleplayed it to the hilt.</p><p>My problem is that I don't understand why they don't see the problem or maybe they think by agreeing with him they'll avoid the same fate.</p><p>Well they're on their own now and I'm hoping the time will let me get over my problem too.</p><p>The shame is that the Greyhawk DM would make a fine Hack & Slash or Ravenloft DM since he runs a fine Call of Cthulhu, but since he now plans to run Conan I doubt he'll ever get back to that campaign which is a shame since by the end the Paladin had annoyed everyone else even the most mild mannered person i have ever known and I was looking forward to plans to get two dms run a crossover between the campaigns as it looked as though my halfling was going to become a cleric and dedicated to killing any so-called Paladin she comes across on the grounds they were more of a threat to the forces of Good than even the Cleric's of Nerull!</p><p></p><p>My 3rd level Halfling female Sorceress and a nother wizard open seeing a newly opened tomb gaze down the corridor.</p><p>Me: Casting Extended Detect Magic</p><p>Wizard: I can do that too and more besides...</p><p>Me: "I do it better, and I'm not a blowhard into the bargain."</p><p>Wizard: "I know more spells I can make permanent magical items where you can't afford to," he jeers</p><p>Me: That reminds me, when they kill you who do you want me to eventually return your spellbook to?" I point out the error in his thinking.</p><p>Wizard:"And what if they come after you too?" he sneers back.</p><p>Me: "Me? (Looks wide eyed) why would the nasty monsters chase after a diminutive and harmless looking halfling openly wearing a holy symbol the DM has been openly ignoring even though I've been pointing it out ever since we started..." I reply</p><p>Wizard snorts.</p><p>We get attacked, the wizard relies on his memorised spells.</p><p>Me:"I cast Dancing Lights!"</p><p>DM groans as he has to make or fake saves for the bad guys any who fail move away quite sharpish for the rest of a minute or two minutes if I have the time to Cast the Extend Spell variant.</p><p>Wizard:"Thats the best you can do?" he jeers.</p><p>Me:"Casting Shield" (+7 AC, +3 Reflex under 3.0)</p><p>Wizard: "I can do that too!" and does so.</p><p>Me: "Can you hide?" as I nip behind the taller spellcaster and use my cloak of elvenkind (+10 bonus to Hide, +4 Halfling bonus, +1 skill rank, +3 Dex Bonus= base +18 to hide).</p><p>Wizard now alone has to retreat as monsters approach and unless the DM decides to fake his Spot checks they don't know I'm there and even if they do thats AC of normally +1 Size, +3 Dex, +7 for Shield spell (covers above quite handy that one direction rule when you're small in size) so thats a base 21 with if he fakes their spot means an AC of 18 without the Dex bonus but as I have never EVER used that kind of action when another character is in danger...</p><p>Actual action:</p><p>Me:"Engage the nearest bad guy with my dagger,"</p><p>Wizard:"WHAT!" as he sees the female halfling sorceress engage the nearest bad guy in melee.</p><p>Me sighing:"Not the first time nor the last, but someone has to rescue these idiots and I may not have the Hit Die, I may not be heavily armoured nor possessing extraordinary abilities of the other classes but I am your worst nightmare..."</p><p>Me:"I am a halfling sorceror run by a player with a versatile imagination and according to the person who ran the best Paladin i have ever seen, a natural Paladin,"</p><p>The Paladin turns to interject, he does alot of that when he thinks he has the right which ismostly all the time especially when I'm right which is more prevalent here as I'm almost always (Except when not in this game, where I'm not afraid to admit to it when I realise they're right, shame he's incapable of that kind of virtue isn't it?) am with this idiot not that he understands of course.</p><p>Me:"I wasn't talking about you fruitloop!" I tell the Paladin wannabe.</p><p>Me:"I actually like fruitcake and am partial to peanut butter so Loopy you will remain!"</p><p>After defeating the bad guy the others report feeling relieved I didn't pull out my shortspear.</p><p>Mostly because the only time I used it I did more damage to my comrades than to the enemy, thats the problem with skeletons when using a sharp pointy stick...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="hopeless, post: 2840297, member: 36349"] [b]Reg: Sorceror's & Wizards[/b] The problem is that the person who ran the Paladin runs the Forgotten Realms camapign where the DM of the Greyhawk campaign runs a dwarven fighter who the DM arranged for his war axe to be enchanted by the hand of his goddess which was pretty cool at the time since my character wasn't mesmerised and treated it as sign he was on good terms with his own god, a concept the DM decided to correct on a number of occasions eventually causing my current spate of rants. I'm hoping to overcome this problem and have a singular advantage in that I have seen someone run a Paladin UTTERLY BRILLIANTLY without any of this zealot rubbish. He used his code to beat a number of traps I had previously designed and later thought were overkill and roleplayed it to the hilt. My problem is that I don't understand why they don't see the problem or maybe they think by agreeing with him they'll avoid the same fate. Well they're on their own now and I'm hoping the time will let me get over my problem too. The shame is that the Greyhawk DM would make a fine Hack & Slash or Ravenloft DM since he runs a fine Call of Cthulhu, but since he now plans to run Conan I doubt he'll ever get back to that campaign which is a shame since by the end the Paladin had annoyed everyone else even the most mild mannered person i have ever known and I was looking forward to plans to get two dms run a crossover between the campaigns as it looked as though my halfling was going to become a cleric and dedicated to killing any so-called Paladin she comes across on the grounds they were more of a threat to the forces of Good than even the Cleric's of Nerull! My 3rd level Halfling female Sorceress and a nother wizard open seeing a newly opened tomb gaze down the corridor. Me: Casting Extended Detect Magic Wizard: I can do that too and more besides... Me: "I do it better, and I'm not a blowhard into the bargain." Wizard: "I know more spells I can make permanent magical items where you can't afford to," he jeers Me: That reminds me, when they kill you who do you want me to eventually return your spellbook to?" I point out the error in his thinking. Wizard:"And what if they come after you too?" he sneers back. Me: "Me? (Looks wide eyed) why would the nasty monsters chase after a diminutive and harmless looking halfling openly wearing a holy symbol the DM has been openly ignoring even though I've been pointing it out ever since we started..." I reply Wizard snorts. We get attacked, the wizard relies on his memorised spells. Me:"I cast Dancing Lights!" DM groans as he has to make or fake saves for the bad guys any who fail move away quite sharpish for the rest of a minute or two minutes if I have the time to Cast the Extend Spell variant. Wizard:"Thats the best you can do?" he jeers. Me:"Casting Shield" (+7 AC, +3 Reflex under 3.0) Wizard: "I can do that too!" and does so. Me: "Can you hide?" as I nip behind the taller spellcaster and use my cloak of elvenkind (+10 bonus to Hide, +4 Halfling bonus, +1 skill rank, +3 Dex Bonus= base +18 to hide). Wizard now alone has to retreat as monsters approach and unless the DM decides to fake his Spot checks they don't know I'm there and even if they do thats AC of normally +1 Size, +3 Dex, +7 for Shield spell (covers above quite handy that one direction rule when you're small in size) so thats a base 21 with if he fakes their spot means an AC of 18 without the Dex bonus but as I have never EVER used that kind of action when another character is in danger... Actual action: Me:"Engage the nearest bad guy with my dagger," Wizard:"WHAT!" as he sees the female halfling sorceress engage the nearest bad guy in melee. Me sighing:"Not the first time nor the last, but someone has to rescue these idiots and I may not have the Hit Die, I may not be heavily armoured nor possessing extraordinary abilities of the other classes but I am your worst nightmare..." Me:"I am a halfling sorceror run by a player with a versatile imagination and according to the person who ran the best Paladin i have ever seen, a natural Paladin," The Paladin turns to interject, he does alot of that when he thinks he has the right which ismostly all the time especially when I'm right which is more prevalent here as I'm almost always (Except when not in this game, where I'm not afraid to admit to it when I realise they're right, shame he's incapable of that kind of virtue isn't it?) am with this idiot not that he understands of course. Me:"I wasn't talking about you fruitloop!" I tell the Paladin wannabe. Me:"I actually like fruitcake and am partial to peanut butter so Loopy you will remain!" After defeating the bad guy the others report feeling relieved I didn't pull out my shortspear. Mostly because the only time I used it I did more damage to my comrades than to the enemy, thats the problem with skeletons when using a sharp pointy stick... [/QUOTE]
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