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<blockquote data-quote="Terath Ninir" data-source="post: 1575931" data-attributes="member: 47"><p>Actually, I just got an idea for turning them into prestige classes rejected by Dragon. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /> </p><p></p><p>Even though *they* don't like it, I think that would be the best way to go. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> Have them be ordinary wizards to start with. I think good prereqs would be the ability to cast 3rd level spells and knowing a certain number of spells of the school they're going in to. Seven springs to mind -- I think I've seen that number used for other PrC's.</p><p></p><p>The specialist would keep any spells learned already, but would get a banned school when they signed up for the PrC, and more as they rise in level. (This would be to "pay" for nifty abilities. They also lose the bonus wizard feats.) So they could know any low-level spells, but would be more and more limited with their high-level spells.</p><p></p><p>The benefits could be various. Access to non-wizard spells of the school they're in -- just a few, though; that's a pretty potent ability. Bonuses to caster level and DC when casting spells, and save bonuses against spells of the school.</p><p></p><p>The diviner would need more goodies (such as access to cleric divinations), while the evoker would probably have the least. The other classes would be in between. Illusionists would need slightly different bonuses, since I'm pretty sure there are no illusions that aren't wizard spells. Perhaps a disbelief save at -10 (or even -15) on illusions even without interaction.</p><p></p><p>If you have Unearthed Arcana, I think the prestige paladin and ranger would be excellent guides to help with the idea.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Terath Ninir, post: 1575931, member: 47"] Actually, I just got an idea for turning them into prestige classes rejected by Dragon. :lol: Even though *they* don't like it, I think that would be the best way to go. :) Have them be ordinary wizards to start with. I think good prereqs would be the ability to cast 3rd level spells and knowing a certain number of spells of the school they're going in to. Seven springs to mind -- I think I've seen that number used for other PrC's. The specialist would keep any spells learned already, but would get a banned school when they signed up for the PrC, and more as they rise in level. (This would be to "pay" for nifty abilities. They also lose the bonus wizard feats.) So they could know any low-level spells, but would be more and more limited with their high-level spells. The benefits could be various. Access to non-wizard spells of the school they're in -- just a few, though; that's a pretty potent ability. Bonuses to caster level and DC when casting spells, and save bonuses against spells of the school. The diviner would need more goodies (such as access to cleric divinations), while the evoker would probably have the least. The other classes would be in between. Illusionists would need slightly different bonuses, since I'm pretty sure there are no illusions that aren't wizard spells. Perhaps a disbelief save at -10 (or even -15) on illusions even without interaction. If you have Unearthed Arcana, I think the prestige paladin and ranger would be excellent guides to help with the idea. [/QUOTE]
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