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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Rystil Arden" data-source="post: 2105180" data-attributes="member: 29014">Absolutely Roman.  The SP cost of a spell is equal to the spell's level times 2 minus 1.  So a 9th-level spell costs 17 SP.  0-level spells cost 1/2 SP.  You can actually use this system to convert all arcane spellcasters into a point casting class instead of fire-and-forget, although that is probably irrelevant right now.  It is possible to follow the conversion to 20th-level, but misleading.  This is because there is a standard formula for how many spells a wizard gains each level (slot of new level plus slot of one level lower at odd levels and slot of two highest levels at even levels) that is broken after level 18 (because there are no 10th-level slots at 19 so you wind up exactly 2 SP below where you should be).  I can certainly do it if you consider this important, but I won't unless you give me the word, as it does take time to crunch the numbers.  I can analyse for the most extreme case too, if you desire.  The multiplier for gain comes out better for the generalist the more you min/max your Int (because those free specialist slots become less and less of a percentage of your total spells), but the total number of SP he is behind does not change.  Super-Uber-Ultra-Min-Maxer (SUUMM):Sun Elf who has convinced his DM to allow Spellcasting Prodigy from 3.0, and then boosts his Int at every opportunity including buying Int items when they first become available (I'm not going to have him Polymorph any Object himself for more Int, but a true SUUMM would do it).Level 1: Generalist-4.5, Specialist-6, Gain-1.33333Level 2: Generalist-6, Specialist-7.5, Gain-1.25Level 3: Generalist-15, Specialist-19.5, Gain-1.3Level 4: Generalist-19, Specialist-23.5, Gain-1.23684Level 5: Generalist-34, Specialist-43.5, Gain-1.27941Level 6: Generalist-42, Specialist-51.5, Gain-1.22619Level 7: Generalist-65, Specialist-81.5, Gain-1.25385Level 8: Generalist-77, Specialist-93.5, Gain-1.21429Level 9: Generalist-101, Specialist-126.5, Gain-1.25248Level 10: Generalist-117, Specialist-142.5, Gain-1.21795Level 11: Generalist-149, Specialist-185.5, Gain-1.24497Level 12: Generalist-169, Specialist-205.5, Gain-1.21598Level 13: Generalist-209, Specialist-258.5, Gain-1.23684Level 14: Generalist-233, Specialist-282.5, Gain-1.21245Level 15: Generalist-281, Specialist-345.5, Gain-1.22954Level 16: Generalist-309, Specialist-373.5, Gain-1.20874Level 17: Generalist-365, Specialist-446.5, Gain-1.22329Level 18: Generalist-397, Specialist-478.5, Gain-1.20529But here's the more interesting comparison.  I'll do a SUUMM Generalist vs a normal ho-hum 18-Int throughout his whole life Specialist, but no gain because they take too long.  Just watch and see who's ahead at which levels and by how much.  Its mighty close for a while because the SUUMM gets the 1 spell per day per level back from his Int bonus that he doesn't get from specialising.  Ultimately, this is a false comparison because no specialist would let their Int sit so low, and no generalist is likely to be a SUUMM, but notice how the specialist is closer to the SUUMM than the generalist is to the specialist! (the specialist never falls a full caster level worth of SP behind until level 18 [that is, a caster is a full level behind when the other guy has more SP at a lower level], and normally the generalist falls over two caster levels behind)Level 1: Generalist (SUUMM)-4.5, Specialist-5, Level 2: Generalist (SUUMM)-6, Specialist-6.5, Level 3: Generalist (SUUMM)-15, Specialist-15.5, Level 4: Generalist (SUUMM)-19, Specialist-19.5, Level 5: Generalist (SUUMM)-34, Specialist-34.5, Level 6: Generalist (SUUMM)-42, Specialist-42.5, Level 7: Generalist (SUUMM)-65, Specialist-64.5, Level 8: Generalist (SUUMM)-77, Specialist-76.5, Level 9: Generalist (SUUMM)-101, Specialist-97.5, Level 10: Generalist (SUUMM)-117, Specialist-113.5, Level 11: Generalist (SUUMM)-149, Specialist-140.5, Level 12: Generalist (SUUMM)-169, Specialist-160.5, Level 13: Generalist (SUUMM)-209, Specialist-193.5, Level 14: Generalist (SUUMM)-233, Specialist-217.5, Level 15: Generalist (SUUMM)-281, Specialist-256.5, Level 16: Generalist (SUUMM)-309, Specialist-284.5, Level 17: Generalist (SUUMM)-365, Specialist-329.5, Level 18: Generalist (SUUMM)-397, Specialist-361.5, Oh, and Roman, I have to say that you are the most amiable and open-minded person who I have posted here with evidence against their original PoV, so I'm glad to do these calculations for you (they only took about 25 minutes).</blockquote>

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