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Message: <blockquote data-quote="The Little Raven" data-source="post: 4093243" data-attributes="member: 10095">I understand that. But discussing a problem that might not even exist doesn't really serve any purpose, and merely gets some people worked up over problems that may not even be there. We've got enough people jumping to false conclusions based on outdated/debunked information as it is... launching into long discussions about theoretical problems will just acerbate the problem.It's no different than 3e, with one difference: consistency. The same boulder trap would be causing you to make a Reflex save in 3e, which is a different way of saying the same thing. Any bonus to Reflex saves (whether they made sense against a boulder or not) helped you.To me, it's more of stepping on something in your kitchen and assuming it's a roach, because it's too dark to actually see what it is. You might have stepped on a peanut shell and assumed you had an infestation when you didn't. Let's get the lights on before we call the exterminator, I say.</blockquote>