Reply to thread

Message

<blockquote data-quote="Oofta" data-source="post: 9163921" data-attributes="member: 6801845">There are always going to be exploits and &quot;generous&quot; interpretations of rules.&nbsp; I know of no way to boost the damage of each magic missile, although I don't pay attention to optimization rules either. Sounds like a Pun Pun problem to me. <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="🤷‍♂️" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f937-2642.png" title="Man shrugging&nbsp; &nbsp; :man_shrugging:" data-shortname=":man_shrugging:" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" />&nbsp; At 14th level you can empower to get max damage if you're an evoker, but do it more than once and you start taking necrotic damage.Animate objects is a good spell, hope the creature you're fighting doesn't have a breath weapon or some other AOE to take them out.&nbsp; Also depends on size, they still take up a space, our group used simple ball bearings.&nbsp; Animate dead isn't bad either but again at higher levels they may as well be made out of tissue paper.Oh, and add in that the objects and undead have a +8 and a +4 respectively to hit while a high level PC will likely have at least a +12 to hit and frequently higher.&nbsp; Suddenly your &quot;amazing&quot; amount of damage is easily countered and doesn't do nearly as much damage as you state.So yes the wizard can expend resources and occasionally do more damage.&nbsp; If they have the right spell prepared for the target.&nbsp; But different classes and builds have different roles to play in the game.&nbsp; In every game I've played to 20th, the wizard occasionally went nova and excelled while the fighter consistently dealt out death.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Oofta, post: 9163921, member: 6801845"] There are always going to be exploits and "generous" interpretations of rules. I know of no way to boost the damage of [I]each [/I]magic missile, although I don't pay attention to optimization rules either. Sounds like a Pun Pun problem to me. 🤷‍♂️ At 14th level you can empower to get max damage if you're an evoker, but do it more than once and you start taking necrotic damage. Animate objects is a good spell, hope the creature you're fighting doesn't have a breath weapon or some other AOE to take them out. Also depends on size, they still take up a space, our group used simple ball bearings. Animate dead isn't bad either but again at higher levels they may as well be made out of tissue paper. Oh, and add in that the objects and undead have a +8 and a +4 respectively to hit while a high level PC will likely have at least a +12 to hit and frequently higher. Suddenly your "amazing" amount of damage is easily countered and doesn't do nearly as much damage as you state. So yes the wizard can expend resources and occasionally do more damage. If they have the right spell prepared for the target. But different classes and builds have different roles to play in the game. In every game I've played to 20th, the wizard occasionally went nova and excelled while the fighter consistently dealt out death. [/QUOTE]

Verification