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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Bryan898" data-source="post: 2674743" data-attributes="member: 9085">How was I talking about my campaign specifics?  Someone tried to argue that 32 point buy was a high point buy when it seems the norm.  Nobody else has called me out on campaign specifics, as I've used none.  As for hurting America, I find it amusing that instead of coming back with a logical arguement against my point you try to make an insult.  This is a debate topic, if you can't stand the other side's debate try to debate back with an arguement, not a childish comment like the one above.Maybe you should read the spell.  You can summon up to your Caster Level with Gate when summoning multiple creatures.  So you could only summon one at a time, not four as posted before, unless you're spending four rounds casting gate four times.  As for picking them up with their clutches, once again you have not read the ability.  It has a Reflex save DC, the Elder's being a DC 28.  It's not even close to a sure thing that the monk will be picked up give a 20th level monk could have a Ref save of +26 (+12 base, +6 dex, +5 resistance, +1 luckstone +2 lightning reflexes).  Another terrible arguement.I wasn't arguing whether or not is was optional or not.  I was arguing whether or not it could be core, and seeing as there are core rules to justify it being made there's no reason to have it otherwise.  As for it being subject to DM whimsy, EVERYTHING is subject to DM whimsy.Sure why not?  As said by tylermalan, the debate is assuming both have spent their entire lives readying to battle each other.  Therefore, it's very plausible to assume that the monk has researched certain spells or hired someone to research it for him.  Considering the rules of the debate may be helpful before you post such an arguement.Sure he can, because he bought rod's of cancellation which stop the forcecage.  Or ring's of greater spellstoring with disintegrate in them which other people have mentioned.  The QTS+Otto was mentioned yes, first by me on the 2nd page post #60, where I said it was one of the better strategies to be employed by the wizard, along with the other spells I would have chosen for the wizard.As for the response of "In my campaign we don't do it that way" I have yet to discard a strategy based on the way we handle things in my campaign.  I simply stated how we handle the spell, then went on to discuss the strategy I'd use by Core without my campaign specifics.You should actually read my posts, the rest of the thread, and the spells you're speaking of using before you make an arguement based on them.  So far it seems that you have yet to do so.  Or if you're going to put words in my mouth about "Well, IMC we don't do it that way, so I refuse to talk about it", you should post the quotes that you're referring to.</blockquote>

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