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<blockquote data-quote="Bryan898" data-source="post: 2674991" data-attributes="member: 9085">A.) As far as fighter-type classes go:&nbsp; Move extremely fast to close with the monk in one round up to 180 feet away with a charge.&nbsp; This becomes moot in an open area, but in a more cramped area such as a dungeon could be effective.&nbsp; Once magical flight becomes a factor, most speeds will even out, though the wizard will have the advantage of being able to shapechange or polymorph into a creature with a faster natural fly speed.&nbsp; However, in a more cramped area where the ceiling is within the range of a monk's jump on a charge it is effective.&nbsp; This is because many spells that have been outlined in the wizard's capabilities are at a range of close which maximizes at 75'.&nbsp; To move and cast a close range spell the wizard must be within 135' (60' fly movement), which could allow the monk to charge on his turn.&nbsp; A quickened teleport admittedly stops this advantage, and it is limited by terrain.B.) Have an ability that could conceivable end the fight with a Fort save.&nbsp; No other fighter class has a similar ability, and the Wizard's weak save is his Fort save.C.) Have saves that give him a chance to continually make his saves.D.) Have an ability to turn ethereal, which makes him immune to most of the wizards spells, save force effects, and may give him a chance to close with the wizard.That would be about it IMO.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Bryan898, post: 2674991, member: 9085"] A.) As far as fighter-type classes go: Move extremely fast to close with the monk in one round up to 180 feet away with a charge. This becomes moot in an open area, but in a more cramped area such as a dungeon could be effective. Once magical flight becomes a factor, most speeds will even out, though the wizard will have the advantage of being able to shapechange or polymorph into a creature with a faster natural fly speed. However, in a more cramped area where the ceiling is within the range of a monk's jump on a charge it is effective. This is because many spells that have been outlined in the wizard's capabilities are at a range of close which maximizes at 75'. To move and cast a close range spell the wizard must be within 135' (60' fly movement), which could allow the monk to charge on his turn. A quickened teleport admittedly stops this advantage, and it is limited by terrain. B.) Have an ability that could conceivable end the fight with a Fort save. No other fighter class has a similar ability, and the Wizard's weak save is his Fort save. C.) Have saves that give him a chance to continually make his saves. D.) Have an ability to turn ethereal, which makes him immune to most of the wizards spells, save force effects, and may give him a chance to close with the wizard. That would be about it IMO. [/QUOTE]

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