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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ashrym" data-source="post: 9845533" data-attributes="member: 6750235">Sorry it took me a while to get back to this.  Got busy.In the absence of a wizard in the party who is replaced by a sorcerer then the sorcerer has incentive to also take rituals in order to use the ritual aspect the class gained.  I, for example, take rituals on sorcerers or bards too.  The benenfit is the wizard doesn't need to prep those rituals while other arcane spellcasters who want to also use rituals are required to cut into their prepared spells to do so.  Other arcane caster do have rituals that are worth taking.What the DM can say isn't relevant.  The PHB lists level 1 spell scrolls in the standard equipment so a DM removing that option is alternative system.  Purchasing level 1 spell scrolls is the default.I'll repeat what I just said to Zard, "purchasing level 1 spell scrolls is the default," because those scrolls are listed as basic equipment for sale on the PHB list.I take rituals on casters other than wizards too.Funds is a better discussion, I think, than shops with scrolls existing, but plate mail costs 1500 gp.  That's the equivalent of 30 scrolls.  If we're going to assume players can get funds for plate mail then we have to assume they'll have similar funds for scrolls or other items.Any wizard should have the funds for many scrolls by the time any character could afford plate mail.  That would be restricted to 1st level spells so a person should be looking at 1st level spells specifically for spells sorcerers can't get and the rituals.It also means it's  not unreasonable to assume a sorcerer can also have several scrolls on hand until using them up.That's not a problem.  It means the wizard gains a reasonable WIS save bonus without needing to invest in Wisdom.  Wisdom is a very common save to use so this is a good thing.Again, sorry for the delayed responses.</blockquote>

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