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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 7362879" data-attributes="member: 996">To be fair, the Greek gods didn't have angel wings, either (the Romans pinned some on Nike, I think it was, that's about it).&nbsp; But Circe was a daughter of Poseidon, and didn't have a fish tail, so point taken.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />&nbsp;&nbsp; By the standard set by Vancian magic, that's not so wide of the mark as all that, though - D&amp;D being notoriously execrable at closely modeling anything for most of it's history.&nbsp;&nbsp; In 3.x, the Sorcerer and Fighter (with some MCing) probably represented the peak of player freedom to custom-build PCs that actually emulated archetypes and specific characters from genre.&nbsp; Not a very high peak, and the CoDzillas and Godwizards'd overshadow you, but still....I agree that the 4e &amp; 5e sorcerer implementations were too locked into their 'build' and sub-class flavors, respectively, while the 3.x sorcerer gave you a much freer hand at chargen.&nbsp; To that extent, I have to agree with MoonSong that it's gotten 'worse' over the eds.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 7362879, member: 996"] To be fair, the Greek gods didn't have angel wings, either (the Romans pinned some on Nike, I think it was, that's about it). But Circe was a daughter of Poseidon, and didn't have a fish tail, so point taken. ;) By the standard set by Vancian magic, that's not so wide of the mark as all that, though - D&D being notoriously execrable at closely modeling anything for most of it's history. In 3.x, the Sorcerer and Fighter (with some MCing) probably represented the peak of player freedom to custom-build PCs that actually emulated archetypes and specific characters from genre. Not a very high peak, and the CoDzillas and Godwizards'd overshadow you, but still.... I agree that the 4e & 5e sorcerer implementations were too locked into their 'build' and sub-class flavors, respectively, while the 3.x sorcerer gave you a much freer hand at chargen. To that extent, I have to agree with MoonSong that it's gotten 'worse' over the eds. [/QUOTE]

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