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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Black Knight Irios" data-source="post: 5976086" data-attributes="member: 8853">In my opinion there is nothing wrong with Magic Missile damage = Crossbow damage. If that much damage is already a problem there should be very strict laws restricting the possibility of carrying all kinds of mundane weapons in the public. I don't want to imagine what a Barbarian with a 2h weapon will do if we let him carry around that much destructive potential unchecked.And I believe there is nothing wrong with generalist and specialist wizards in the same game. I don't want to be forced to play either but I want to be able to make the choice if I want to.You are talking about LVL1 chars? I don't know if you believe that a first level wizard using magic missile can lay waste to a town; then anyone who knows how to use a weapon can do the same b/c obviously the townsfolk are too stupid to hit the wizard with 2-3 attacks of any kind.And your cleric does not gain the power to blast away with lances of divine light the day he becomes a level 1 cleric. The rules make it appear so.Think of learning how to drive a car. You can drive a car after you had several practice sessions but you still need the license. The license does not give you the ability to drive a car its makes your ability legal.Regarding your cleric, he can blast away with lances since a certain point in his training but only a certain ceremony makes him a level 1 cleric.Therefore, I assume you have a problem with the cleric shooting lances at all. Which is pretty much what you say here:So after he used up his daily allotment of attack spells is the cleric/wizard only a support caster - if so why?Does he have to use his mundane weapons - if so why? - Take a look at my statement about the dangers of mundane weapons in a world described by you.I pretty much prefer that such highly magical/divine characters can shoot away with magical attacks especially if they are not outright better than mundane weapons. Even more so, if they would truly be inept at wielding mundane weapons.Oh glorious 2E wizards..."I have cast my one spell a day, now give me my crossbow for the remaining 23h59m." The glory, the joy.</blockquote>

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