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<blockquote data-quote="stevelabny" data-source="post: 5922591" data-attributes="member: 9298">Except that I don't consider a magic dagger in a secret compartment in a locked file cabinet in a disuse lavatory with a sign saying BEWARE OF LEOPARD&nbsp; to be &quot;designed to be hidden&quot;I consider something with a non-detection spell cast on it, something with invisibility cast on it &quot;designed to be hidden&quot;&quot;designed to be hidden&quot; means it won't work as TRUE SEEING or SEE INVISIBILITY. You can even argue if a magical disguise would be show up or not. But a magic item hidden by mundane means?&nbsp; Were visible in prior editions and this version is too poorly written to tell if you have to actually see the object with your eyes or not.&nbsp; And since this version does not exist in a vacuum, they really need to clarify. If they do clarify before launch that it only works on things you can see directly, I will still think its very powerful, but I probably won't think its game-breaking.&nbsp; And I'm fully aware I'm playing a playtest and things can and will be clarified.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="stevelabny, post: 5922591, member: 9298"] Except that I don't consider a magic dagger in a secret compartment in a locked file cabinet in a disuse lavatory with a sign saying BEWARE OF LEOPARD to be "designed to be hidden" I consider something with a non-detection spell cast on it, something with invisibility cast on it "designed to be hidden" "designed to be hidden" means it won't work as TRUE SEEING or SEE INVISIBILITY. You can even argue if a magical disguise would be show up or not. But a magic item hidden by mundane means? Were visible in prior editions and this version is too poorly written to tell if you have to actually see the object with your eyes or not. And since this version does not exist in a vacuum, they really need to clarify. If they do clarify before launch that it only works on things you can see directly, I will still think its very powerful, but I probably won't think its game-breaking. And I'm fully aware I'm playing a playtest and things can and will be clarified. [/QUOTE]

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