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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jabberwocky" data-source="post: 1120873" data-attributes="member: 2929"><p>Well, no actually.  A succubus doesn't make a good combat monster, but she would be amazingly good at seducing and killing a lone target.  This is what assassins do.  With ethereal jaunt, she has good information gathering/concealment options, greater teleport lets her in and out of places, and shes not much behind in skills than a human character of the same ECL.  Her max ranks may be lower, but the bonuses to Int and Cha make up for a lot of that as do the racial bonuses to spot and listen.  Defensively, shes very well off, with excellent natural armor, and immunities or resistances to everything but sonic.  And she could pretty easily have a cha of 40 (base 18+16 racial+6 enhancement), which boosts the DCs of all her spelllike abilities.  Charm Monster DC 29, Energy Drain DC 28 (or 30 if you want to take ability focus).  And the higher you start, the better it is.  A 12 HD succubus is not at all far off from an 18th level rogue type, except for sneak attack.  I'll grant that Assassin is not actually optimal for a succubus, even though they would make great assassins. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />  Blackguard would prob be better, so that they can gain that massive Cha save bonus, and try for the divine feats that use cha to get more huge bonuses.  Succubus is probably one of the weaker ECL races I mentioned, but I can still see one making a decent, effective character.</p></blockquote><p></p>

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