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<blockquote data-quote="NerfedWizard" data-source="post: 4572295" data-attributes="member: 68865">I'm currently having a debate with a very stubborn and obstinate member of my gaming group who was indoctrinated by a certain well-known commercial RPG into believing that wizards in any game ever written should never be able to wear metal armour without incurring a chance of failing in their spellcasting attempts because the iron (it goes without saying) mysteriously interferes with their magic and of course all wizards are old weaklings who can't wear armour because naturally you need training to even move in a chainmail shirt. Needless to say to state my own partisan viewpoint I completely disagree with all the aforegoing points.&nbsp;However this stubborn man has challenged me to come up with instances in classic myths, fantasy literature, fantasy movies and other parts of our Collective Consciousness of fantasy which show wizards wearing armour.&nbsp;Now, I'm not fussy about the distinction between wizards, sorcerers, magi, magicians, enchanters, etc. for these purposes, as long as we start from the premise that they are using something that my stubborn friend would regard as &quot;arcane&quot; as opposed to &quot;divine&quot; magic and are racially fully human and living, or at least humanlike.&nbsp;So far, I've come up with Elric [human? humanlike?], who I think wears armour at some point. Anyone who could confirm that please do.&nbsp;However mostly I am asking because I am lazy - please can people come up with a list of figures from literature, classic myths, movies, poems, children's stories etc. - anything which feeds into our collective imagery of magicians (but NOT simply RPGs) - even a few would be very helpful so I can give him the link to this thread!!!&nbsp;Thanks&nbsp;Matt</blockquote>

[QUOTE="NerfedWizard, post: 4572295, member: 68865"] I'm currently having a debate with a very stubborn and obstinate member of my gaming group who was indoctrinated by a certain well-known commercial RPG into believing that wizards in any game ever written should never be able to wear metal armour without incurring a chance of failing in their spellcasting attempts because the iron (it goes without saying) mysteriously interferes with their magic and of course all wizards are old weaklings who can't wear armour because naturally you need training to even move in a chainmail shirt. Needless to say to state my own partisan viewpoint I completely disagree with all the aforegoing points. However this stubborn man has challenged me to come up with instances in classic myths, fantasy literature, fantasy movies and other parts of our Collective Consciousness of fantasy which show wizards wearing armour. Now, I'm not fussy about the distinction between wizards, sorcerers, magi, magicians, enchanters, etc. for these purposes, as long as we start from the premise that they are using something that my stubborn friend would regard as "arcane" as opposed to "divine" magic and are racially fully human and living, or at least humanlike. So far, I've come up with Elric [human? humanlike?], who I think wears armour at some point. Anyone who could confirm that please do. However mostly I am asking because I am lazy - please can people come up with a list of figures from literature, classic myths, movies, poems, children's stories etc. - anything which feeds into our collective imagery of magicians (but NOT simply RPGs) - even a few would be very helpful so I can give him the link to this thread!!! Thanks Matt [/QUOTE]

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