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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Engilbrand" data-source="post: 4573990" data-attributes="member: 44184">Wow. This went in a different direction. While I agree in principal with NerfedWizard, he seems to have left some things out.Does it make sense that Wizards CAN'T use armor? No. It's silly. In 4e, they aren't trained in its use, but they can get the training. That makes perfect sense to me.That's not how he really set this up, though. He set it up as as if Gray Beard was just being crazy and irrational. He wasn't. He's just using 3.5 rules.Are there a ton of things that get rid of ASF in 3.5? Yeah. Most of them aren't core, though. Should the restrictions be removed? No. It actually is a balance thing in this case. Not that the 3.5 Wizard is balanced, but this is part of it.In the end, I'm going to side with Gray Beard. It's a 3.5 game that he's running. As such, the Wizard is hosed for armor unless supplements are allowed.Then again, are you guys really going to get along in game with something like this going on? You guys don't seem to get along. Is it worth sitting at the table together?</blockquote>