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<blockquote data-quote="Piratecat" data-source="post: 3745596" data-attributes="member: 2"><p><span style="color: red">Eric, I'm going to use you as an example. Sorry for that, but I needed to say something about your post anyways.</span></p><p><span style="color: red"></span></p><p><span style="color: red">Folks, the above post is a good example of what some people refer to as "threadcrapping." It's when someone posts an exaggeratedly contrary opinion that seems custom designed to start an argument. We first saw it in Greyhawk and FR threads, where people who hated those campaign settings would post rude comments just to rile up fans. We didn't like it there, either.</span></p><p><span style="color: red"></span></p><p><span style="color: red">In the 4e forum, members who threadcrap aren't usually doing it to try and troll or be deliberate jerks; more likely, it happens because they're frustrated and worried about bad things happening to a game they love. You'll see this behavior from both pro- and anti-4e crowds, but it's been coming more often from people worried about 4th edition since they feel they have more to lose. That doesn't make it okay.</span></p><p><span style="color: red"></span></p><p><span style="color: red">The thing is, it's easy to express a contrary opinion without threadcrapping. Compare the quoted sentences above with something like "I'm worried you won't need a bard because there's not going to be many non-combat activities, since from what I've heard the new game focuses more on fighting." Yeah, it's still changing the subject from bards to the "staying power" of 4e characters, but at least it's not using hyperbole to start an argument.</span></p><p><span style="color: red"></span></p><p><span style="color: red">If you're hanging out in the 4e forum because you're pissed off about the new game and want to start fights, please go elsewhere. If you don't like the idea of 4e but still want to discuss it, you're welcome here -- just obey the normal rules for politeness and decorum. That goes for fans of 4e, too. No one who is nervous about the game wants an evangelist telling them that it'll fix their problems, walk their dog and shine their shoes. </span></p><p><span style="color: red"></span></p><p><span style="color: red">If people keep proper respect for one another, we'll be just fine. EN World works so well because 99% of people self-moderate to an astonishing degree. And if you see people slipping, well, let us know by clicking the tiny "report a post" button at the bottom left of every post. We'll take a look at it.</span></p><p><span style="color: red"></span></p><p><span style="color: red">If you have questions or comments about this post, please email me or post them in the Meta forum. i'd rather not hijack this thread any further.</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Piratecat, post: 3745596, member: 2"] [color=red]Eric, I'm going to use you as an example. Sorry for that, but I needed to say something about your post anyways. Folks, the above post is a good example of what some people refer to as "threadcrapping." It's when someone posts an exaggeratedly contrary opinion that seems custom designed to start an argument. We first saw it in Greyhawk and FR threads, where people who hated those campaign settings would post rude comments just to rile up fans. We didn't like it there, either. In the 4e forum, members who threadcrap aren't usually doing it to try and troll or be deliberate jerks; more likely, it happens because they're frustrated and worried about bad things happening to a game they love. You'll see this behavior from both pro- and anti-4e crowds, but it's been coming more often from people worried about 4th edition since they feel they have more to lose. That doesn't make it okay. The thing is, it's easy to express a contrary opinion without threadcrapping. Compare the quoted sentences above with something like "I'm worried you won't need a bard because there's not going to be many non-combat activities, since from what I've heard the new game focuses more on fighting." Yeah, it's still changing the subject from bards to the "staying power" of 4e characters, but at least it's not using hyperbole to start an argument. If you're hanging out in the 4e forum because you're pissed off about the new game and want to start fights, please go elsewhere. If you don't like the idea of 4e but still want to discuss it, you're welcome here -- just obey the normal rules for politeness and decorum. That goes for fans of 4e, too. No one who is nervous about the game wants an evangelist telling them that it'll fix their problems, walk their dog and shine their shoes. If people keep proper respect for one another, we'll be just fine. EN World works so well because 99% of people self-moderate to an astonishing degree. And if you see people slipping, well, let us know by clicking the tiny "report a post" button at the bottom left of every post. We'll take a look at it. If you have questions or comments about this post, please email me or post them in the Meta forum. i'd rather not hijack this thread any further.[/color] [/QUOTE]
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