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<blockquote data-quote="Tovec" data-source="post: 6150538" data-attributes="member: 95493"><p>In the first place isn't this the difference between 3e's Sorcerer and Wizard? I mean sorcerers have blasty goodness but a limited spell and wizards can have all the spells and pick? I mean, unless I've missed something, the problem is the higher level wizards, their versatility, and enchantment (or transmutation) spells that break the game. Picking evocation OR illusion at higher levels is usually a subpar choice.</p><p></p><p>Second, part of this conversation seems to revolve around schools of magic. I agree with a couple others here that schools absolutely are not the right place to differentiate different kinds of wizards. As pemerton points out there is a lot of overlap. A reclassification and general examination of schools is a conversation I 100% want to see. Not something Wizards is likely to do but an excellent exercise anyway.</p><p></p><p>Third, if generalist wizards get spells at +1 level, specialist at +2 (off school) and 0 for school spells then isn't this the same effective difference as ... 0, +1 and -1 respectively. I mean that, wizards getting the Fly spell (and all the others) itself breaks the game when fighters don't, it doesn't matter if it happens two levels later. It was just a thought, I don't have a solution or anything.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tovec, post: 6150538, member: 95493"] In the first place isn't this the difference between 3e's Sorcerer and Wizard? I mean sorcerers have blasty goodness but a limited spell and wizards can have all the spells and pick? I mean, unless I've missed something, the problem is the higher level wizards, their versatility, and enchantment (or transmutation) spells that break the game. Picking evocation OR illusion at higher levels is usually a subpar choice. Second, part of this conversation seems to revolve around schools of magic. I agree with a couple others here that schools absolutely are not the right place to differentiate different kinds of wizards. As pemerton points out there is a lot of overlap. A reclassification and general examination of schools is a conversation I 100% want to see. Not something Wizards is likely to do but an excellent exercise anyway. Third, if generalist wizards get spells at +1 level, specialist at +2 (off school) and 0 for school spells then isn't this the same effective difference as ... 0, +1 and -1 respectively. I mean that, wizards getting the Fly spell (and all the others) itself breaks the game when fighters don't, it doesn't matter if it happens two levels later. It was just a thought, I don't have a solution or anything. [/QUOTE]
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