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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AllisterH" data-source="post: 4976200" data-attributes="member: 51325">Um, did nobody play a pre 3e wizard?The tactic of getting up in the morning and buffing yourself seems to be a 3.x tactic which I don't really remember in 1e/2e.1e/2e wizards were HARD to play. Seriously, with the restriction on magic items (can't buy them, pretty much an adventure in of itself to make one thus you had to get by with what slots you had) AND the rules of magic in combat (1 pt of damage and your spell is lost AND high level spells being relatively slow in combat) AND the rules for spells themselves (many spells being dangerous to the caster AND spell acquisition being more subject to the whims of the DM AND non-damage spells being less useful as you level)I personally never really thought that the 3e wizard was a D&D wizard since all of the underlying mechanics of what made a D&D wizard got changed. Looks the same, but in practice, but a 3e wizard is vastly different than a pre 3e wizard.re: Realm-shattering powerIsn't Conan and the tales of the round table major inspiration for D&D? Both and Conan especially, have pretty weak wizards (hell the ritual system for 4e matches pretty well with the more ritualistic style of magic in Conan IMO)The thing is, I don't believe we could ever go back to the pre 3e mechanics of spellcasting. The biggest issue is that people EXPECT to have more control of their own character thus choice of spells (which was always the real limitation in pre 3e) can no longer be expected to be under the control of the DM.</blockquote>

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