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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Toras" data-source="post: 4976404" data-attributes="member: 13626">I think part of my problem with 4e has always been the shear dragging mundanity of it all.  Wizards pulled down rather than raising up the non-casting classes.  Let me have Hercules that is capable of taking the world from Atlas's shoulders, a Samson capable of slay hordes with the jaw bone of an ass.  Let my thief steal fire from the gods, the heart of maidens fair and vanish like smoke from even the sharpest eye of man.  Let him steal the words from your mouth and the thoughts from your mind. Let my cleric part the sea as Moses's upon the mount or call down fire from the heavens upon a city of men.  Let my sword's man slice the wind and my monk balance on the head of a pin.</blockquote>