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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Votan" data-source="post: 4980551" data-attributes="member: 18680">It is true that you can do a lot to customize monsters to avoid some of these issues.  But I was curious how the basic SRD creatures did and it is amazing how poorly they do.  If we go beyond the PHB, there is a 4th level spell that is a swift action that gives +10 to penetrate spell resistance: Assay Spell Resistance (Sor/Wiz 4).  It lasts one round/level so you cast it once and your target is reduced in defenses for the rest of the combat.  Our Marilith has a spell resistance of 25; after Assay Spell Resistance it is 15 and a 16th level caster will pierce it on a 2+.  Even the mighty Balor, at SR 28, needs only a 2+ from a 16th level caster using this spell.  Even within the PHB, the wizard goes through on a 9+, less if she invested in spell penetration, greater spell penetration and a robe of the archmagi.  The best a Mohrg can do is 28 HD by the SRD, with a weak Fort Save that is a +9 (no con bonus) and he needs a mircale to save.  If we did allow a 44 HD Mohrg (as CR 16 monster) it'd have a +15 Fort Save (needs an 11+ to save) and 286 hit points.  Save or die still looks awful tempting . . .</blockquote>